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#2 (permalink) Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:34 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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Hi penny lane,
I think you must have confused the transcription - there should be no /d/ in 'beige' [beɪʒ] but in cage [ceɪdʒ]. The difference in pronunciation is actually quite simple; you pronounce the /d/ in 'cage' wheres you don't in 'beige'.
Here's a good introduction to the IPA. _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:50 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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hi penny lane
To help you along with this subtle pronunciation: cage is like mage, rage, page, and other such words that have the same dʒ sound in them.
The /d/ is there, but softer than in badge which has the same dʒ phoneme as cage.
Badge like fudge and ledge are a little harder.
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#4 (permalink) Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:59 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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| stew.t. wrote: |
| The /d/ is there, but softer than in badge which has the same dʒ phoneme as cage. |
I would argue that this 'softer' impression stems from the diphthong in [ceɪdʒ]. The short vowel ahead of 'dʒ' in [bӕdʒ] probably serves to make it sound harder. But I'm sure it isn't  _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Aug 12, 2008 13:13 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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Hi Ralf
Always right my lovely, just trying to clarify darlin. Better to be of help than to hinder, innit? _________________ Please meet Stewart Tunncilff |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Aug 13, 2008 22:44 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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Picking up on an exchange of ideas shared over a bev - what words can you think of that rhyme with 'cadge' (in your neck of the grove)?
Can I cadge some money for a badge? - No, it's been stolen by a madge. Yeah right, you're such a vadge!
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#8 (permalink) Wed Aug 13, 2008 23:38 pm Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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It seems to me that the final consonant in "cage" has a more forceful aspiration than in "badge"; which may make it sound "softer".
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#9 (permalink) Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:53 am Pronunciation of G in beige, and cage |
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Hi Ralf
As long as the chocolate is Lindt and has an arty cover just for folks like me, and no changing the label. ; )
As for ryhmning, could try some experimental rhyming;
"flage.....llation"
Not sure if I would separate it onto two lines, what you reckon?
For other thread peruses, the meaning of cadge is;
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cadge ask for or obtain (something to which one is not strictly entitled) : he eats whenever he can cadge a meal. | [ intrans. ] they cadge, but timidly. noun Falconry a padded wooden frame on which hooded hawks are carried to the field. [ORIGIN: apparently an alteration of cage , perhaps confused with the dialect verb cadge [carry around.] ] PHRASES on the cadge Brit., informal looking for an opportunity to obtain something without paying for it.
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