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Usage of "'d" in nursery rhyme | an expression: hammer lock
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Origin of phrase/rule #1 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:33 am   Origin of phrase/rule
 

What is the origin, and why is the following rule needed; what prompted its genisis?

''use i before e , except after c''.

Thank you for your assistance.

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Origin of phrase/rule #2 (permalink) Sun Aug 10, 2008 12:56 pm   Origin of phrase/rule
 

Hi Ken

I have no idea where or when this rhyme originated, but I'm sure the intention was to provide a mnemonic device to help people with spelling. Maybe someone else will be able to come up with information about origin.

The version I learned as a kid was this:

Quote:
I before E
except after C,
or when sounding like A
as in neighbor and weigh.


As I'm sure you know, there are lots of exceptions to this "rule", so exactly how useful it might be as an aid for correct spelling is debatable. However, I personally think these devices can be helpful as long as people keep in mind that they are guidelines and not ironclad rules.

I lived in Germany for a long time, and I remember that one of my biggest problems with spelling in German was whether I had to write 'ie' or 'ei'. Now, my German friends were amazed that I should find this difficult. Nevertheless, it was a constant stumbling block for me -- until I came up with my own little mnemonic device. Afterwards I basically never had a problem with ie vs ei in German again.
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Origin of phrase/rule #3 (permalink) Mon Aug 11, 2008 0:45 am   Origin of phrase/rule
 

Thank you, Amy. So nice of you to respond! I wonder, in the bigger scheme of sacred creation, why there has to even be two different uses/spellings of words, when they sound the same. Why spell like sounding words, two different ways? Oh well, my little brain shouldn't be allowed to ponder such questions. Have a great day, Amy!
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