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Here is the magic recipe Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:38 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

daily newpaper+ english radio broadcoating

yes, it is indeed the best recipe,since it provides the real english.
think of childern ,they spend at least 2 years listening to thier mother tongue from thier parents and reading baby books,and by the end of that period and after coolecting some desent vocabulary and expressions ,they start to produce through speaking and later,writing.

follow my method for 1 month only and you'll touch the defference.
I've passed my TOFLE FROM THE FIRST ATTEMPT and going to be an Englsih teacher in 2 years time.
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Here is the magic recipe Mon Aug 11, 2008 23:19 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

You forgot one important part of the formula, Serah. You can't really learn a language unless you use it. So you've got it right that you can learn well with a lot of intake, but people also need practice with output. There are a couple of languages that I understand very well, but that I can't speak and can barely write, because I never did so and never got correction.
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Here is the magic recipe Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:20 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

if you're a beginner ,you better listen to the target language for 2 year first ,in order to increase your propability of being fluent in the future......I've taken many courses redarding the issue of learning a foriegn language,as a part of my major,besides you've got my own experience to prove it.
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Here is the magic recipe Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:33 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

Serah wrote:
if you're a beginner ,you better listen to the target language for 2 year first ,in order to increase your propability of being fluent in the future......I've taken many courses redarding the issue of learning a foriegn language,as a part of my major,besides you've got my own experience to prove it.

Okay, but I have also taken many courses of that type -- possibly more than you -- and I used to teach the subject.

I question how fluent you actually are, because your spelling indicates that you still have a lot of typical Arabic pronunciation problems that make Arabs difficult to understand when speaking English. For example, I can see that you probably still have trouble hearing and making the pronunciation distinction between /p/ and /b/, because you wrote "propability" instead of "probability". You also have trouble pronouncing the vowel /ɪ/, "defference" instead of "difference". I see these mistakes frequently in my classroom and they are generally caused by pronunciation problems. So would your writing of "coolecting" instead of "collecting".

There is the additional problem that you don't write spaces after your commas, don't capitalize "English", and use calques from Arabic, such as "touch the difference", which is definitely not said in English.

You may consider yourself to be quite fluent, but I would place your English at about mid-intermediate level, regardless of what your TOEFL scores said. If you go to an English-speaking country to study, they will almost certainly make you take more ESL.

Your English is not a good advertisement for the method you're promoting.
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Here is the magic recipe Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:59 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

Serah, here's one way to re-write your content:
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daily newpaper+ english radio broadcoating

Yes, it is indeed the best recipe, since it shows English as it is really spoken and written.
Think of children: they spend at least two years hearing their mother tongue from their parents and reading baby books. By the end of that period, and after collecting and retaining a decent vocabulary and set of expressions, they start to speak and, later, to write.

Follow my method for one month only and you'll see the difference (or "a difference").

I passed my TOEFL ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT and will be an English teacher in two years' time.
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Here is the magic recipe Tue Aug 12, 2008 19:08 pm  Here is the magic recipe
 

thanks you both of you
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