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Mon Aug 11, 2008 23:19 pm Here is the magic recipe |
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| You forgot one important part of the formula, Serah. You can't really learn a language unless you use it. So you've got it right that you can learn well with a lot of intake, but people also need practice with output. There are a couple of languages that I understand very well, but that I can't speak and can barely write, because I never did so and never got correction. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 4461 Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:20 pm Here is the magic recipe |
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| if you're a beginner ,you better listen to the target language for 2 year first ,in order to increase your propability of being fluent in the future......I've taken many courses redarding the issue of learning a foriegn language,as a part of my major,besides you've got my own experience to prove it. |
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Serah New Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Location: Dubai, UAE
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:33 pm Here is the magic recipe |
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| Serah wrote: | | if you're a beginner ,you better listen to the target language for 2 year first ,in order to increase your propability of being fluent in the future......I've taken many courses redarding the issue of learning a foriegn language,as a part of my major,besides you've got my own experience to prove it. |
Okay, but I have also taken many courses of that type -- possibly more than you -- and I used to teach the subject.
I question how fluent you actually are, because your spelling indicates that you still have a lot of typical Arabic pronunciation problems that make Arabs difficult to understand when speaking English. For example, I can see that you probably still have trouble hearing and making the pronunciation distinction between /p/ and /b/, because you wrote "propability" instead of "probability". You also have trouble pronouncing the vowel /ɪ/, "defference" instead of "difference". I see these mistakes frequently in my classroom and they are generally caused by pronunciation problems. So would your writing of "coolecting" instead of "collecting".
There is the additional problem that you don't write spaces after your commas, don't capitalize "English", and use calques from Arabic, such as "touch the difference", which is definitely not said in English.
You may consider yourself to be quite fluent, but I would place your English at about mid-intermediate level, regardless of what your TOEFL scores said. If you go to an English-speaking country to study, they will almost certainly make you take more ESL.
Your English is not a good advertisement for the method you're promoting. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 4461 Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 18:59 pm Here is the magic recipe |
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Serah, here's one way to re-write your content: --------
daily newpaper+ english radio broadcoating
Yes, it is indeed the best recipe, since it shows English as it is really spoken and written. Think of children: they spend at least two years hearing their mother tongue from their parents and reading baby books. By the end of that period, and after collecting and retaining a decent vocabulary and set of expressions, they start to speak and, later, to write.
Follow my method for one month only and you'll see the difference (or "a difference").
I passed my TOEFL ON THE FIRST ATTEMPT and will be an English teacher in two years' time. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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Prezbucky I'm a Communicator ;-)

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2252 Location: Nashville, TN (USA)
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Tue Aug 12, 2008 19:08 pm Here is the magic recipe |
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| thanks you both of you |
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Serah New Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2008 Posts: 7 Location: Dubai, UAE
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| speaking nationalities | Directness |