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#3 (permalink) Sun Aug 17, 2008 8:16 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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| In which use is "look for" a phrasal verb, Torsten? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#4 (permalink) Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:49 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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Hi Molly,
Welcome back to our forum and many thanks for your interesting question. If you want to learn more about the phrasal verb "look for", I suggest you read this story by Alan Townend.
Once you have read the story, you can check your knowledge by taking this test.
Hope this helps. Best regards, Torsten
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#5 (permalink) Sun Aug 17, 2008 21:33 pm "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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| It helps a lot. Thanks.Silvina |
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Sipa2008 You can meet me at english-test.net
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#6 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:56 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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I'd say:
In "He's looking for clues, for example, "look for" is not a phrasal verb. |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#7 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 11:55 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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Hi,
OK. Let's call it a prepositional verb because the two parts 'look' and 'for' cannot be separated.
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#8 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 21:37 pm "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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| Fine by me. |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#9 (permalink) Thu Aug 21, 2008 0:15 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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I think the use of "phrasal verb" to describe "look for" was quite reasonable. Some linguists distinguish between prepositional and phrasal verbs, on the basis of e.g. particle movement; but that distinction is by no means universal.
I notice for instance that the Oxford Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs includes "verb + preposition" as well as "verb + adverb" combinations. Thus these can be regarded as two subsets of {phrasal verbs}.
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#10 (permalink) Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:20 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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| MrPedantic wrote: |
I think the use of "phrasal verb" to describe "look for" was quite reasonable. Some linguists distinguish between prepositional and phrasal verbs, on the basis of e.g. particle movement; but that distinction is by no means universal.
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Indeed it isn't. That's why I wrote "I'd say":
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I'd say:
In "He's looking for clues, for example, "look for" is not a phrasal verb. |
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| I notice for instance that the Oxford Dictionary of Phrasal Verbs includes "verb + preposition" as well as "verb + adverb" combinations. Thus these can be regarded as two subsets of {phrasal verbs}. |
Does that publication include "care about" as a phrasal verb? |
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Molly I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#11 (permalink) Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:39 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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This is what BBC Learning says:
"This combination of verb and preposition is usually referred to as a prepositional verb, although sometimes it is also known as a phrasal verb."
Would you say that "usually", there, is valid? |
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#12 (permalink) Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:22 am "in search for" vs. "look for" |
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I doubt it. "Prepositional verb" is the rarer form; I would call Wikipedia's definition of "phrasal verb" the more usual.
But my point was that to describe "look for" as a phrasal verb was perfectly reasonable; and on that we seem to agree.
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