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| Molly wrote: | | Jamie (K) wrote: | | Catholics don't have to take the wine at all. Many never do. |
No, I mean that when taking the bread and wine, the Anglican priest must assure that they are both consumed wholly. If the congregation don't finish both, the priest has to. I've heard that's not the case in the Catholic Church. |
No, it's the same thing in the Catholic Church. The priest drinks the remainder that has not been consumed by the congregation, but the priests have got it down to a science so that there's nothing or nearly nothing left over. In rare cases where there is a lot of consecrated wine left over and it has to be disposed of, there is a special drain in the sacristy that leads directly to the ground. It can't be mixed with the ordinary sewage. Extra hosts are not consumed by the priest, but are stored in the tabernacle until needed, whether at another mass or to be administered to the sick in the hospital, to the infirm at home, etc.
However, in the Catholic Church it is not required that the people receive both the bread and the wine. Until about the 1970s, in most Catholic churches a lot of bread was consecrated at mass but only a very small amount of wine (maybe amounting to less than a shot glass) and only the priest consumed the wine. It's still done that way at some parishes today. Anyway, no priest turns into an alcoholic by drinking gallons of unconsumed altar wine left over from mass, because there is next to nothing left over. |
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| prezbucky wrote: | He countered with a passage in Jeremiah in which Jeremiah declares that the offspring of Jeconiah/Jehoiachin can never sit atop David's throne.
In Matthew 1, we see that Jesus is, in fact, a descendant of Jeconiah.
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Tom, here's your answer from a priest I know who is also a scholar of the biblical languages:
| Quote: | | I’d call the Jewish man out on it. I don’t think any passage as such exists in the Old Testament. I’d require him to present it to me, and then I’d compare his English version to the ancient languages to make sure he is not presenting to me a specious translation. Jehoiachin was the one who was king when Jerusalem had some 10,000 of the princes, wealthy, etc., taken into the Babylonian Exile around 597 BC, so he is rather famous. In fact, in Jeremiah we find prophecies of God restoring Jehoiachin, so I have a hard time imagining to what this Jewish fellow was referring. Jeremiah prophesied the tumbling of the throne of Israel, but that was not the full picture; he also prophesied the restoration. I find it humorous, in fact, that of every refutation a Jewish man might find, he refers to the prophets; for Jesus fulfilled every prophecy of each of the prophets, and in the most amazingly clear way. |
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Yeah -- saved by grace, justified by faith
As for works being part of it -- sure, a person should be "decent/good" if he attempts to follow Christ. But we shouldn't be like, "Look at me, the perfect Christian." (that's the "lest a man boast" thing)
i was having issues with the bottle last night and should not have been posting. well -- not THE bottle, more like several 12-oz bottles. hehe
BTW, thanks for forwarding the Jeconiah question for me.
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Jamie --
The Jehoiachin thing is found in Jeremiah 22:24-30
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24 "As surely as I live," declares the LORD, "even if you, Jehoiachin [c] son of Jehoiakim king of Judah, were a signet ring on my right hand, I would still pull you off. 25 I will hand you over to those who seek your life, those you fear—to Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and to the Babylonians. [d] 26 I will hurl you and the mother who gave you birth into another country, where neither of you was born, and there you both will die. 27 You will never come back to the land you long to return to."
28 Is this man Jehoiachin a despised, broken pot,
an object no one wants?
Why will he and his children be hurled out,
cast into a land they do not know?
29 O land, land, land,
hear the word of the LORD!
30 This is what the LORD says:
"Record this man as if childless,
a man who will not prosper in his lifetime,
for none of his offspring will prosper,
none will sit on the throne of David
or rule anymore in Judah."
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| prezbucky wrote: | | As for works being part of it -- sure, a person should be "decent/good" if he attempts to follow Christ. But we shouldn't be like, "Look at me, the perfect Christian." (that's the "lest a man boast" thing) |
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Genesis 1 26 - “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.”
How do Christians live it out?
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| Ralf wrote: | Genesis 1 26 - “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.”
How do Christians live it out? |
Depends on how you think of living that out. Europeans are pretty much not Christian anymore, so they're not fruitful and they don't multiply.
The passage says that the earth is man's to use, but of course if a parent gives a kid a car and tells him it's his, it doesn't mean he's supposed to smash it up. If you give a kid a dog, you don't expect him to starve the dog and abuse it.
I think that since the '60s people in some countries are doing a reasonably decent job of stewardship over the piece of the earth they have. In the US, for example, despite much squawking to the contrary, we have more forest land than we did in 1776. The land is used but maintained. However, I don't think it's good stewardship when our greenies prevent the government from clearing dead wood from the forest so that it then winds up and causes a brush fire. |
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Hi everybody! 
Last time Jamie said I didn't bother him, so please excuse me for I am to really bother you this time 
1/ From the book 'the thorn birds', I've learnt that in the Roman Catholic Church, there are different ranks of priests like pope, cardinal, archbishop, bishop, and normal priest. So what about in other churches? are there such titles? (I think there are different ones, but how can they be arranged? who is the most powerful and who is the normal ones?)
2/ When looking up the word 'evangelical' in my dictionaries, I found they have slightly different definitions for it. Here is the Longman's: 'evangelical Christians believe that they should persuade as many people as possible to become Christians' => this is quite easy to understand. But please have a look at the Cambridge's: 'belonging to one of the Protestant Churches or Christian groups which believe biblical teaching and persuading other people to join them to be extremely important'. Well, this is easy to understand, too, but I'm rather confused by 'belonging to one of the Protestant Churches' => Personally, (and according to the definition of the Longman Dictionary) I think evangelicals can be Christians of both the Roman Catholic Church and the Protestant Churches, not just the Protestant Churches themselves. So do you think the Cambridge's definition is not very exact?
3/ | Quote: | | You may get some confusion from certain evangelical Protestant groups because if you ask them what their religion is, they just say "Christian". If you question them further, you start to find out that they think that they are the only Christians and that the Catholics, Orthodox, etc., are not Christian. This is, of course, nonsense. People in these evangelical groups are very aggressive at trying to convert people to their type of Christianity, so you may have met and talked to some of them. They can confuse you. |
There are so many kinds of churches in the world, and I am a non-Christian. Jamie, have you any idea about how to distinguish them? How can I know whether a Christian is a member of a Protestant Church when I talk to him/her?
4/ | Quote: | | The Roman Catholic Church is everywhere in the world. It is the largest religious denomination in the United States, and there are 8 million Catholics in Vietnam. |
Oh, so what I've always believed to be 'Christianity' in Vietnam is actually Catholism?
Is there any other denominations of Christianity in Vietnam apart from it, Jamie?
Oh! from this point I've just remembered you haven't answered my last question, Jamie: 'And if they exist in many parts of the world, how can they link together?' I've always been confused about this: Again, from the book 'the thorn birds', I learned that Roman Catholic churches link together, and its center is in Italy (or maybe 'Vatican', for more exactness?). And in Catholism, there is the pope, who is the ultimate leader of it, and who control the whole religion: Catholic churches in parts of the world, as well as cardinals, archbishops, bishops and priests in parts of the world. And again, in the aforementioned book, father Ralph 'promoted' from a normal priest to higher titles after receiving letters from higher churches. What I'm trying to say is that from the book, I learn that there is a LINK among those Catholic churches, but here in Vietnam I don't think priests and nuns know much about other Catholic churches in other parts of the world or the Pope himself. They kind of... live in a completely isolated Catholic world, not knowing anything about activities and the development of the Catholism in the world.
Besides, (again from that book), I remember father Ralph was overjoyed because he was appointed a cardinal though he was not an Italian. This, together with the condition of Catholic churches in Vietnam makes me wonder: so only Italian priests can be appointed bishops or archbishops, or cardinals and popes?
5/ Is it true that in England particularly and the UK generally, there is only one denomination of Christianity - the Anglican Church?
6/ From what you said last time about the off-breaking of the Anglican Church, Anglicans can have more than one wife? and they can get divorced? What about Anglican priests? Can they get married? You know, the reason I ask this question is that long ago, I watched a cartoon named 'Anne Shirley', in which there was a priest (let me call him a priest because I don't know exactly if he's a Christian of which denomination - Catholism or Anglican). And... he's married. He has a wife. I'm very curious about this and because I'm not a Christian myself, I asked my grandma (who is a Christian) if priest could get married, she said they couldn't. So... I'm confused. Why can he be married? :O I just can't understand. Have you ever watched the cartoon or read the book about 'Anne Shirley', Jamie?
7/ | Quote: | | I don't know. I'm not an expert on the Anglican Church. In the United States its usually called the Episcopal Church, and some branches of it are moving away from Christian practice, for example in accepting homosexual marriage, etc. This is causing a big schism in their religion, and many Anglicans in the US are converting to other religions. In a few cases, entire local congregations have become Catholic. |
Uhm... here is what I find in the OALD:
the Episcopal Church (= the Anglican Church in Scotland and the US)
Thus I still can't understand much about the Anglican Church in the UK, esp in England. As for the acceptance of homosexual marriage (which I've heard of), I personally think this is a development because nowadays we are trying to make this world a free world with no segregation. Those people are homosexual naturally. They themselves don't want to be homosexual but it just happens, and because our God is always kind-hearted and forgivable (sorry I don't know better words to express my idea), I believe He sympathises and permits that.
8/ | Quote: | | No. Martin Luther was a German, and Martin Luther King Jr. was an African-American who was given the name in honor of Martin Luther. |
How? could you tell me more about this?
9/ | Quote: | | Christians believe that people who have died have simply left their bodies and that their souls remain alive and still exist somewhere or other (in heaven or hell, wherever and whatever those happen to be). The Catholic and Orthodox believers think that you can ask the dead people in heaven (the saints) to pray for you, just as you would ask a friend to pray for you. If you read the official Catholic prayers, you'll see that they generally ask Mary to pray for people, not to protect them. However, since we don't know what living souls can actually do in the world, it's possible that they can intervene in our lives in various ways and protect us in some ways. After all, it's possible for a living person to protect another living person, so it could theoretically be possible for a dead person's soul to do the same but in a different way. |
I have so many queries for this:
a. You said 'ask the dead people (the saints)', so does it mean that according to the Bible, all good people who come to heaven when they die can be considered 'saints'? So it's that easy to be saints? I thought in order to be saints, we've got to do very great things in our life
b. So Mary can be considered a saint? Saint Mary? It sounds a bit strange to me
c. | Quote: | | Some churches teach that she did, and some teach that she had more children in the ordinary way with her husband. |
But isn't this mentioned in the Bible? How was Mary after she gave birth to Jesus?
10/ | Quote: | | It all depends on what language you're speaking. In English she's Mary, in French she's Marie, in many languages she's Maria. |
Oh, what I really care about is what is the most suitable of addressing her. Shouldn't there be a title (like 'Mother') to show respect? Or just plainly 'Mary'? It doesn't sound scornful at all?
| Quote: | No, it's the same thing in the Catholic Church. The priest drinks the remainder that has not been consumed by the congregation, but the priests have got it down to a science so that there's nothing or nearly nothing left over. In rare cases where there is a lot of consecrated wine left over and it has to be disposed of, there is a special drain in the sacristy that leads directly to the ground. It can't be mixed with the ordinary sewage. Extra hosts are not consumed by the priest, but are stored in the tabernacle until needed, whether at another mass or to be administered to the sick in the hospital, to the infirm at home, etc.
However, in the Catholic Church it is not required that the people receive both the bread and the wine. Until about the 1970s, in most Catholic churches a lot of bread was consecrated at mass but only a very small amount of wine (maybe amounting to less than a shot glass) and only the priest consumed the wine. It's still done that way at some parishes today. Anyway, no priest turns into an alcoholic by drinking gallons of unconsumed altar wine left over from mass, because there is next to nothing left over. |
Oh, I've never known there are such interesting things. But... saving the extra wine for the nest masses? Isn't it a bit... not very sanitary? 
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| nessie wrote: | | 1/ From the book 'the thorn birds', I've learnt that in the Roman Catholic Church, there are different ranks of priests like pope, cardinal, archbishop, bishop, and normal priest. |
The pope is the big boss, but he is elected by the cardinals. Cardinals are almost always priests, but they don't have to be. In the history of the Catholic Church, there have been cardinals who were laypeople but happened to have done great things for the church. The Catholic administrative hierarchy is basically this:
the pope
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priest
Many archbishops and bishops are cardinals. All of these men are priests, except for a rare cardinal who is a layperson.
| nessie wrote: | | So what about in other churches? are there such titles? (I think there are different ones, but how can they be arranged? who is the most powerful and who is the normal ones?) |
Most other churches have similar hierarchies, but they have no pope, and the names of the other positions may vary. Many Protestant churches have no hierarchy at all.
| nessie wrote: | | 2/ When looking up the word 'evangelical' in my dictionaries, I found they have slightly different definitions for it. |
All of the definitions are correct, but the use of the word is complicated. Members of any Christian church can be evangelical in that they practice evangelism (trying to gain new converts to their churches). However, there are certain Protestant churches that we call "evangelical" mainly because they are especially aggressive in this, or used to be.
| nessie wrote: | | There are so many kinds of churches in the world, and I am a non-Christian. Jamie, have you any idea about how to distinguish them? How can I know whether a Christian is a member of a Protestant Church when I talk to him/her? |
Sometimes you have to ask them. Catholics will say they're Catholic. The Orthodox will say that's what they are. Most of the mainline Protestants will tell you which church they belong to, and when someone just says "Christian" and forces you to ask more and more questions to find out their affiliation, they belong to some kind of no-name evangelical Protestant church. Mostly it takes reading and experience, and you definitely can't tell from looking at the person what his religion is.
| nessie wrote: | | Oh, so what I've always believed to be 'Christianity' in Vietnam is actually Catholism? Is there any other denominations of Christianity in Vietnam apart from it, Jamie? |
About 86% of the Christians in Vietnam are Catholic and most of the rest are Protestant.
| nessie wrote: | | Oh! from this point I've just remembered you haven't answered my last question, Jamie: 'And if they exist in many parts of the world, how can they link together?' |
Letters, travel, telegraph, telephone, the Internet. All the normal means of communication.
| nessie wrote: | | I've always been confused about this: Again, from the book 'the thorn birds', I learned that Roman Catholic churches link together, and its center is in Italy (or maybe 'Vatican', for more exactness?). |
The Vatican is a separate country inside Italy. That is the seat of the Roman Catholic Church.
| nessie wrote: | | And in Catholism, there is the pope, who is the ultimate leader of it, and who control the whole religion: Catholic churches in parts of the world, as well as cardinals, archbishops, bishops and priests in parts of the world. |
He is the administrative and spiritual head of the church. It's hard to say he controls the whole religion, because it's just too big, and a lot of things are in the control of laypeople.
Maybe I can help you understand by a comparison:
In Marxist-Leninist countries, the Communist Party controls the country. You've got certain books that are central to Marxism, and the party tells you how to interpret these books.
In the Roman Catholic Church, the pope is on top, along with the bishops (some of whom are cardinals). The central book is the Bible, and the church lets the people interpret it as they want. The church hierarchy only tells people how to interpret parts of it when some wrong understanding of it has become common and might be dangerous. Even then, though, they don't usually say, "It means this," but just, "It can mean this, this or this, but it definitely doesn't mean that."
| nessie wrote: | | And again, in the aforementioned book, father Ralph 'promoted' from a normal priest to higher titles after receiving letters from higher churches. |
Not from higher churches, from higher levels of the Catholic hierarchy.
| nessie wrote: | | What I'm trying to say is that from the book, I learn that there is a LINK among those Catholic churches, but here in Vietnam I don't think priests and nuns know much about other Catholic churches in other parts of the world or the Pope himself. They kind of... live in a completely isolated Catholic world, not knowing anything about activities and the development of the Catholism in the world. |
In communist countries, the government tries to keep Catholics out of contact with the main church as much as possible. Sometimes it doesn't let them travel, it restricts their religious activities, it even puts many of them in prison. In addition, in some communist countries, like China, the government starts its own "catholic" church and makes the real Catholic church illegal. But the Catholic church in Vietnam is definitely connected to the rest of the church in the world, and we know about it.
You might learn more from this article:
http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giáo_hội_Công_giáo_Rôma
| nessie wrote: | | Besides, (again from that book), I remember father Ralph was overjoyed because he was appointed a cardinal though he was not an Italian. This, together with the condition of Catholic churches in Vietnam makes me wonder: so only Italian priests can be appointed bishops or archbishops, or cardinals and popes? |
The book is making a rather silly statement, because there have always been many cardinals from many different countries. Here is an article about a Vietnamese cardinal, and he's not the only one:
http://v1.acton.org/programs/outreach/freedom/vanthuan.html
| nessie wrote: | | 5/ Is it true that in England particularly and the UK generally, there is only one denomination of Christianity - the Anglican Church? |
That was true for a while centuries ago, and it's the reason the US constitution forbids the government to establish a church. However, for a long time the UK has had freedom of religion, and there is no restriction on the existence of other churches.
| nessie wrote: | | 6/ From what you said last time about the off-breaking of the Anglican Church, Anglicans can have more than one wife? and they can get divorced? |
No form of Christianity allows more than one wife (or husband) at the same time. The Catholic Church does not recognize divorce, but many Protestant churches do.
| nessie wrote: | | What about Anglican priests? Can they get married? |
Yes. So can Orthodox priests, and in some parts of the world married men are allowed to become Roman Catholic priests, but not in Europe or the Western Hemisphere. There are a few Roman Catholic priests in the US who are married, but it happened in one of two ways: (1) They are from some other part of the world where married men are allowed to become Catholic priests, or (2) they are Anglican or Orthodox priests who converted to Roman Catholicism. The Catholic Church recognizes Orthodox and Anglican priests to be real priests, so when they convert, they can just take a few classes and work as Catholic priests. And of course, they can keep their families.
The rule for celibacy of priests is not fundamental to the Catholic religion, so if the pope wanted to, he could decide tomorrow that all priests can get married, but the Vatican hasn't done that.
| nessie wrote: | | Have you ever watched the cartoon or read the book about 'Anne Shirley', Jamie? |
I don't know what it is. Are you talking about "Anne of Green Gables"?
| nessie wrote: | | As for the acceptance of homosexual marriage (which I've heard of), I personally think this is a development because nowadays we are trying to make this world a free world with no segregation. Those people are homosexual naturally. They themselves don't want to be homosexual but it just happens, and because our God is always kind-hearted and forgivable (sorry I don't know better words to express my idea), I believe He sympathises and permits that. |
Still today, with all our science, nobody knows what causes people to be homosexual. Some people say they are born that way, but I've also met homosexuals who say that they became that way because they were sexually abused. Maybe it's different for everyone. I remember being excited by women when I was 2 or 3 years old, so I was definitely heterosexual from the get-go.
| nessie wrote: | 8/ | Quote: | | No. Martin Luther was a German, and Martin Luther King Jr. was an African-American who was given the name in honor of Martin Luther. |
How? could you tell me more about this? |
In the United States you're allowed to name your child anything you want. Martin Luther King Jr.'s grandparents admired Martin Luther, so they gave their son his name. His parents then gave him that name too.
| nessie wrote: | I have so many queries for this:
a. You said 'ask the dead people (the saints)', so does it mean that according to the Bible, all good people who come to heaven when they die can be considered 'saints'? |
Yes, anyone who has died and gone to heaven is a saint.
| nessie wrote: | | So it's that easy to be saints? I thought in order to be saints, we've got to do very great things in our life |
EASY TO BE A SAINT?!  Do you think it's EASY to live a good life?! It's REALLY difficult.
I think you're being confused by the fact that the Catholic Church researches the lives of very heroic people, and if they think they have enough evidence, they declare that they know that this person is definitely a saint. But that doesn't mean my grandma didn't become a saint, or some fish vendor. It's just that we don't know for sure about most people.
| nessie wrote: | | b. So Mary can be considered a saint? Saint Mary? It sounds a bit strange to me |
Yes, she's considered to be in heaven, so they consider her a saint. Many local churches are called "St. Mary's".
| nessie wrote: | c. | Quote: | | Some churches teach that she did, and some teach that she had more children in the ordinary way with her husband. |
But isn't this mentioned in the Bible? How was Mary after she gave birth to Jesus? |
It's not mentioned clearly in the Bible. There are places where it talks about Jesus's "mother and brothers", but the Christian books of the Bible were originally written in Greek, and in the Greek of the time they supposedly used one word for both brothers and cousins, just as in Vietnamese you have different words for different brothers in your family, but in English we have only one. Since it's not clear, there are disputes as to whether Mary had more children. All we know for sure from the Bible is that she followed Jesus during his teaching, was present at his execution, and was with the Apostles afterward.
| nessie wrote: | 10/ | Quote: | | It all depends on what language you're speaking. In English she's Mary, in French she's Marie, in many languages she's Maria. |
Oh, what I really care about is what is the most suitable of addressing her. Shouldn't there be a title (like 'Mother') to show respect? Or just plainly 'Mary'? It doesn't sound scornful at all? |
Does it sound scornful when I call you by your own name?
Some people don't like to call her by only her name, so they have all kinds of names for her, such as "Mother Mary" (which you mentioned), "Our Lady", "Our Blessed Mother", etc. In my family, we never used those other names and just called her Mary. There's nothing wrong with that.
| nessie wrote: | | Oh, I've never known there are such interesting things. But... saving the extra wine for the next masses? Isn't it a bit... not very sanitary? |
At the mass, the priest only consecrates enough wine for himself to take a little bit, not much more than a sip (it is mixed with water). The rest of the wine stays in a little bottle, and that will keep just fine for later masses. It's not unsanitary. There's a little bit more of a problem if all the people in the church are going to take some of the wine (again, only a sip), but they never consecrate more wine than can be consumed without getting drunk. Sometimes they don't even consecrate enough wine for everybody, but it's not considered a problem. |
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Thanks for your answers, Jamie. Now I have some more questions:
1/ is 'clergy' the most common word for a chritian priest? how can we distinguish among 'priest', 'vicar', etc? (I've heard quite a lot but I just can't remember. You know, in my bilingual dictionary they are all translated into 'cha' 
2/ Do you know about the book 'The green years' by A.J.Cronin, Jamie? In that book 2 denominations of Chritianity are mentioned. I don't know what they are but I remember something: Some children living in Scotland (or Ireland?) tease Robert Shannon because he goes to a different church, something about saint Patrick which I can't remember...
3/ | Quote: | | Most other churches have similar hierarchies, but they have no pope, and the names of the other positions may vary. Many Protestant churches have no hierarchy at all |
=> what about the Anglican church? (the titles)
4/ Could you name some well-known Protestant churches?
5/ | Quote: | | That was true for a while centuries ago, and it's the reason the US constitution forbids the government to establish a church. However, for a long time the UK has had freedom of religion, and there is no restriction on the existence of other churches. |
=> Now I have a vice-versa question: Does Anglicanism exist only in the UK?
6/ | Quote: | | No form of Christianity allows more than one wife (or husband) at the same time. The Catholic Church does not recognize divorce, but many Protestant churches do. |
=> But what about Henry? So you mean in this aspect the Anglican Church is one of the Protestant Church?
Thank you very much,
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1. "Clergy" refers to the religious authorities of any religion. It could be a Catholic priest, a Protestant minister, a Jewish rabbi, a Muslim imam, a Buddhist monk, anybody like that. For the word "vicar", you need to look in a monolingual dictionary online. Try http://www.merriam-webster.com
2. I have never read anything by A.J. Cronin, but I think he or she must be talking about Protestants and Catholics in Ireland. St. Patrick is a Catholic saint who first brought Christianity to Ireland. Especially the Irish Catholics venerate him, but the Protestants don't venerate saints.
3. You can learn all about the Anglican clergy from this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglicanism#Ordained_ministry
They have bishops, priests and deacons, as the Catholics do, but no pope.
4. Here is a chart that gives the main historical denominations of Protestants: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism#Movements_within_Protestantism
It's not complete, because some new Protestant church breaks off and is formed practically every day. In the US, the main Protestant churches are the Lutheran church (which has broken into three branches), the Methodist church, the Presbyterian church, the Baptist church (many branches), and some others I can't think of right now.
5. Anglicanism exists all over the world, wherever the British have gone.
6. That's right. The Anglicans recognize divorce, but the Catholics don't. |
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Jamie (K)
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