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#2 (permalink) Sun Aug 17, 2008 22:35 pm Don't you go either/Don't go you either |
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| I'd say the first one is grammatically correct, but both of them could actually be said in the course of a conversation. |
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#3 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:10 am Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| I cannot imagine every saying the second one. |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:33 am Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| Barb_D wrote: |
| I cannot imagine every saying the second one. |
It is said in my family. |
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#5 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:45 am Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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. Stick with your first sentence, Volcano.
I have never heard anyone say "Don't go you either", and if you wrote that sentence on a standardized test, it would very definitely be marked as wrong.
Like Barb, I can't imagine anyone intentionally saying "Don't go you either".
Theoretically, you could possibly hear your second sentence spoken as two separate mini-sentences. In that case, there would be a pause between the words 'go' and 'you', and it would have to be punctuated accordingly in written form. In addition, the second part would address a different person than the first part:
"Don't go. You either!" = "Don't go. (And don't) you (go) either." |
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#6 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 8:07 am Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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Hi,
To me this little gem:
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is just the sort of phrasing that would come out of the mouth of a genuine rustic person who hasn't had the benefit of any instruction in English.
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#7 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 15:41 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| Yankee wrote: |
. Stick with your first sentence, Volcano.
I have never heard anyone say "Don't go you either", and if you wrote that sentence on a standardized test, it would very definitely be marked as wrong.
Like Barb, I can't imagine anyone intentionally saying "Don't go you either".
Theoretically, you could possibly hear your second sentence spoken as two separate mini-sentences. In that case, there would be a pause between the words 'go' and 'you', and it would have to be punctuated accordingly in written form. In addition, the second part would address a different person than the first part:
"Don't go. You either!" = "Don't go. (And don't) you (go) either." |
Yeah, something like this. |
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#8 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 18:21 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi,
To me this little gem:
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is just the sort of phrasing that would come out of the mouth of a genuine rustic person who hasn't had the benefit of any instruction in English.
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#9 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 18:31 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| I wanted to mean like "everyone has gone,don't go you either/as well".I think if i say "don't you go either" its being like a question,isn't it ? |
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#10 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 18:38 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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Hi Volcano,
We've probably confused you. You could say 'Now that everyone has gone, you shouldn't go either'. But it'll be more idiomatic to say 'I'd like you to stay!' _________________ Test of English as a Foreign Language TOEFL Preparation & TOEFL Vocabulary Learn more: How to Become an English Teacher |
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#11 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 19:35 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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Situation 1: Everyone has gone to a party except Jack and Amy. If Amy does not want to go and wants Jack to stay with her, she might say: Amy: Don't you go too, Jack!
(Everyone except Jack and Amy goes.)
Situation 2: Everyone was invited to a party. Mom does not want her kids (Alice, Barb and Jack) to go: Mom (looking at Alice and Barb): I don't want you two to go to that party. There is always trouble whenever they have a party. Jack: What about me? I promised them I would be there. Mom (looking at Jack): Don't you go either. I can't allow any of you to go.
(Nobody goes: Alice, Barb and Jack don't go.) . |
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#12 (permalink) Mon Aug 18, 2008 19:55 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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| Thanks good examples... |
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#14 (permalink) Sat Aug 23, 2008 15:48 pm Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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Hi Nessie
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| 1/ When we say 'don't you go', it can mean both a question ('don't you go?') or an imperative ('don't you go!')? And how we can understand the sentence depends on the context? |
You've basically answered your own question. In written English, punctuation will clarify the meaning. In spoken English, intonation will tell you whether it's a command or a question.
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2/ Here is how I understand the two sentences: - Don't you go, too => the word 'too' here refers to 'go' - Don't you go either => the word 'either' here refers to 'don't' => Am I right or wrong? |
I'd say you have the right idea, Nessie.
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| 3/ Is there any differences between the versions with commas and the versions without commas? |
Personally, I don't see any difference. . |
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#15 (permalink) Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:32 am Don't you go either. vs Don't go you either. |
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