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 #48 (permalink) Sat Aug 30, 2008 18:20 pm Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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Hi Ralf ,
Thank you very much .
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Najlaa
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| #49 (permalink) Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:21 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| I tried to put an end to discussion yesterday , but i failed |
Why would you want to put an end to this discussion? |
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| #50 (permalink) Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:58 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| Molly wrote: |
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| I tried to put an end to discussion yesterday , but i failed |
Why would you want to put an end to this discussion? |
Hi Molly,
I know that i did not have the right to do that ,but I got the answer of my question from my great teachers whom i respect very much and i hope they have a nice weekend without problems like this discussion .
If you like it Go Ahead . |
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| #51 (permalink) Sun Aug 31, 2008 21:53 pm Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| I'd be surprised if this discussion gave them a bad weekend. |
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| #52 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:11 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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Hi Molly,
May be i could not express my thought effectively ,so that you surprised.
As you know i am a non-native speaker and i do not use English in communication
of my daylife except few words.I am trying to use my English in the forum and i know that it is not as good as teacher`s or yours.
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| #53 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 4:47 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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Hi Najilaa
The nature of discussion is that you may not have the power to end one in an internet thread as in real life. This is what I will call the "walk away factor". In real life you can just walk away from your discussion partner or group. Or time and life gets in the way. Here it is something you can come back to easily so the end is always left open to further input. Some users can not leave a discussion.
Just feel satisfied your question was answered and let the discussion ensue if that is what will happen.
No weekends spoilt, and do not become discouraged your English is good enough to engage in discussions and will get better the more you try.
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| #54 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:10 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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Hi Stew,
Who is Luna?? :) :)
Sure i agree with you and sorry to all. :oops:
Thank you for encouraging me.
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Najlaa
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| #55 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:52 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| Sure I agree with you and sorry to all. |
But what is it that you are apologising for, Najlaa? I don't see anything that you have a need to apologise for. |
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| #56 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:58 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| Truth is, it's actually a very small minority of native speakers that get irritated when someone doesn't use the language in the way they would like it to be used. Personally, I find it rather odd, or even immature, that a native speaker would get irritated at another native speaker's pronunciation. If you're not that fussed about that minority, get on with using the language in the best way you can. I'm quite sure that most of the native speakers who use "offen" do not give a toss whether the next person uses "of-ten" or not. |
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| #57 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:14 am Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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Hi Molly,
I am apologising because i tried to end the discussion which i did not have the right to do as stew said. I think the correct way to fix it is to apologising just to feel comfort.
Thanks a lot . |
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| #58 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 15:42 pm why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| Yankee wrote: |
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| Not quite. We Americans say [ʼęd vr taiz mənt]. |
I've always pronounced that word with the main stress on the third syllable (taiz). That may be more of an East Coast tendency I suppose.
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Honestly? Think about that again. I'm from the east coast too, and I put the stress on the first syllable. Not only that, but I have NEVER heard anyone put it on the third syllable -- say it out loud several times, real slow and exaggerated, and I think you'll find the stress is on the first syllable too. |
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| #59 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 20:01 pm why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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| Honestly? Think about that again. |
Hi Taeglich
Honestly. :D I don't need to think about it again. The reason that I posted in the first place was that I knew immediately that the pronunciation Jamie had given was different from mine -- and also different from lots of other people I know.
Believe it or not, before I posted, I thought it over quite carefully, and I also said the word out loud in combination with various other words. Why? Only because Jamie had indicated a different pronunciation. No matter how I tried, though, placing the heaviest stress on the first syllable simply sounded a little bit "foreign" to me. :lol: Placing the heaviest stress on the first syllable is simply not the pronunciation I grew up with, and is very definitely not the pronunciation I use.
I am quite sure that I am not alone in this main-stress-on-the-third-syllable pronunciation. Not at all. However, I am also well aware that the word "advertisement" has more than one American pronunciation. The only thing I don't know is exactly who uses which pronunciation where.
Maybe Barb_D and Skrej and diverhank will chime in here and tell us how they and/or people in their areas pronounce the word "advertisement".
When it comes to pronouncing the word "advertisement", it seems the only thing we Americans can agree on is that we don't stress the second syllable the way the Brits do. :lol:
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| #60 (permalink) Mon Sep 01, 2008 20:52 pm Why often has two way of pronunciation? |
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You could always take away all 'stress' and simply say: advert.
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