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#2 (permalink) Fri Aug 29, 2008 16:52 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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Hi T Cat
One tendency that comes immediately to mind, for example, is that in AmE we tend to say "help someone do something" whereas I believe it might be more typical in BE to say "help someone to do something". This my personal opinion on something I see as a difference in frequency of usage. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Aug 29, 2008 17:02 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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Hi,
I think the additional 'to' is really a matter of choice in British English rather than typical.
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#4 (permalink) Fri Aug 29, 2008 17:10 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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. I wonder why I expected exactly that sort of comment from you, Alan. ;) . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#5 (permalink) Fri Aug 29, 2008 17:15 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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I really don't get the point of that remark. I ran it through aloud to myself and that's the conclusion I came to. It's as simple as that. _________________ English as a Foreign Language You can read my EFL story Progressive Forms |
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#6 (permalink) Fri Aug 29, 2008 17:19 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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So, are you saying that you think the frequency of usage (with and without the word "to") would be about 50-50 in BE?
I'm asking because I have found the difference in frequency of usage to be quite noticeable. I'd say the general tendency in AmE would be to choose "help someone do" far more often than you Brits do. However, it may well be possible to narrow this difference down to more specific usage situations. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#7 (permalink) Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:09 am The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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Does it refer to "help someone do" alone? Are there are other examples, like:
To go on like this was dangerous. Her plan was now to drive to Bath during the night. I have never learnt to read or write. He was too tired to work. Joe is a person to lean on. He began to feel some curiosity.
Can 'to' be omitted in AmE in any of the cases or maybe elsewhere? |
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#8 (permalink) Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:14 am The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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Hi T Cat
I was referring only to the construction "help someone do".
The only thing that strikes me as being different in your other sentences is the spelling of the word "learnt" -- we use "learned" in AmE. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Sep 03, 2008 20:16 pm The difference of verbals usage in BrE and AmE |
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| Thank you a lot:) |
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