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#2 (permalink) Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:39 pm The accusative "contradiction". |
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. A very interesting observation and a true one. I have no idea. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Fri Sep 05, 2008 20:27 pm The accusative "contradiction". |
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. Well, I've heard occasional jocular use. I knew some people once who had a dog named "Izzer". The dog's name was a result of of the fact that their dog was constantly off gallivanting somewhere, and their constant subsequent question "Where is her?" :lol: . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#4 (permalink) Fri Sep 05, 2008 21:34 pm The accusative "contradiction". |
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My wildest guess would attribute the phenomenon to the word 'and'. Without 'and' it has to go like 'He/She is going...' while with 'and' it brings about a sense of preposition like 'with'. Therefore, the orthodox 'I and he/she' becomes 'I and (with) him/her' and then 'Me and him/her' to give a better balance or readability.
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#5 (permalink) Fri Sep 05, 2008 23:39 pm The accusative "contradiction". |
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"Them" is sometimes used as a subject pronoun ("Them's the jockeys for me!"); in dialect, "us" may be heard as a subject pronoun, and the roles of "he"/"him" and "she/her" may be reversed.
Cf. too the ordinary use of disjunctive pronouns:
1. "I agree with Mister M." "Me too."
Your example might represent disjunctive pronouns + ellipsis:
2. Me and her[, we] are going on holiday.
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