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Dummkopf used in English? #1 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:14 am   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Hi,

I think I've just heard the word 'dummkopf' on CNN radio which happened to be playing the background and there was this report about a guy in Germany who made some kind of stupid mistake.

So, is does the word 'dummkopf' make any sense to English native speakers?

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Dumkopf used in English? #2 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:23 am   Dumkopf used in English?
 

If you read war comics, it does.
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Dummkopf used in English? #3 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 15:37 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Hah, I've never heard this word, outside of usage by German speakers. The only reason it makes any sense to me is because I learned it, along with some pithier insults in German.

However, I'd say it's not widely understood or used in English. I'd guess that somebody on the report either spoke some German, or did a bit of research to 'spice up' or 'authenticate' their report.
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Dummkopf used in English? #4 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 15:44 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Hi Skrej,

The interesting things is that many online dictionaries such as Merriam-Webster, the Urban Dictionary or Answers.com have a 'dummkopf' entry.

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Dummkopf used in English? #5 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 15:47 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Hi Torsten,

Dictionaries have many interesting entries. Only yesterday I learnt that Americans say 'acclimate' if they refer to the process of acclimatisation.
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Dummkopf used in English? #6 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 16:02 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Molly wrote:
Here's another bit of war comics usage: 'For you my Frent, the var iss ofer' 'Now you vill die, Englander scum' And more: [quote:f4d7ce64d5]The vast majority of British men whose middle-school years lay between 1959 and 1988 will recall being able to issue orders, profanities and blaspheme in German. The very frequency of their appearance in the narrative of war-books readily prompted children to add 'achtung', 'schnell', 'Gott in Himmel', 'Donner und Blitzen' to their vocabulary. sussex.ac.uk/history/documents/ems.pdf[/quote:f4d7ce64d5]


I think it should read "Gott im Himmel".

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Dummkopf used in English? #7 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 16:02 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

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I deleted my earlier post because Torsten didn't actually seem interested. :?

The word "dummkopf" is one that I had heard used in English long before I ever learned German or relocated to Germany. I grew up in an area that had lots of German immigration, so it's not at all surprising that I've heard this word used in my neck of the woods. People around here don't usually pronounce the "p", though.

In this area it's also not uncommon to hear people say "Gesundheit" rather than "Bless you" when someone sneezes.
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Dummkopf used in English? #8 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 16:04 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

Hi Amy,

Fortunately enough I'm not the only person who is interested in this discussion.

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Dummkopf used in English? #9 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 16:06 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

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Yes, that's why I reposted.
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Dummkopf used in English? #10 (permalink) Tue Sep 09, 2008 20:34 pm   Dummkopf used in English?
 

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I think it should read "Gott im Himmel".


I'm sure it should.
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Dummkopf used in English? #11 (permalink) Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:58 am   Dummkopf used in English?
 

When I was growing up, I certainly heard dummkopf, though I would have had no idea how to spell it! (Most people know what "kopf" means - or at least they did where I was from. They seem to enjoy pairing it with a the German word that means something that you deposit in the toilet. I have no idea if anyone in Germany uses that pairing!)

Now that you mention it, though, I haven't heard it in a while.
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Dummkopf used in English? #12 (permalink) Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:30 am   Dummkopf used in English?
 

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Commonly enough heard in my younger days at least-- Hogan's Heroes, a popular TV comedy series (1965-71), was probably at least partly responsible.
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