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| hello i think 119 is very important day no one can forget it frankly i sympthize with american pepole and victims but america is dictator country oppress us as arab and moslim cover the violent israeli works against palestinian because of this Osama bin ladn wanted o tell american government stop killing and oppressing us we can protect ourselves and our religion we are here you have to respect us every day there is blod in palestine,iraq where was the american government which claims it is the protector of human rights when they kill us no one speaks even a word but when we response and defend they raise their voice moslim are killer . i think this is not fair |
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| #18 (permalink) Sat Sep 20, 2008 23:38 pm What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| As for me, Michael Moore´s arguments sounded quite logical and shed some light on the events that happened. |
Hi Michael,
I can't wait to hear Jamie's response to this :) |
Moore's film made so many politicians so angry -- including both Democrats and Republicans -- that they got together and made film in response, called "Fahrenhype 9/11". It not only explains Moore's misinformation, but it also exposes the camera and editing tricks he used to create the false impression. The best thing to do is to watch both movies on the same night, first Moore's movie and then the other one.
Another interesting thing would be for you to read the chapter on Michael Moore in the book "Do As I Say, Not As I Do" by Peter Schweizer. Moore was making big money by trading in Halliburton stock. (Actually, the entire book is quite good, and I'd recommend all of it.)
Your remarks confirm me in my belief that a lot of public opinion is based not only on what kinds of things are translated into other languages, but also what sorts of things never get translated. |
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| #19 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 1:14 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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I believe Michael Moore about as much as I believe that the Easter Bunny hides the eggs. That guy has a leftist agenda and he chooses only bits of information that support it... hacks full interviews into bits he can use... and is otherwise about as biased as a person can be. His crap cannot rightly be called documentaries.
I was asleep on the couch at 8:30ish Central when my girlfriend called ne. When I turned on the TV I thought I was watching a Hollywood trailer. When I figured out what I was seeing, I became very angry. I wanted to kill militant Muslims. I went to a bar and discussed our nuclear capability with others. What could we do with our arsenal, and how quickly could we do it, and could there be any retaliation?
I was very angry. And I thought, are they that hateful of western success? Are they that jealous?
And I thought then, and still think now, that there is no place for militant, extremist Islam. Hey, if they won elections fairly and didn't kill or otherwise sabotage the opposition, fine... But whoever targets women, children, civilians... when they continue to be against personal freedom the likes of which we enjoy... that thinking needs to be erased.
A person should not have to fear that his beliefs will lead to his murder, or the abduction of his family, etc. If these people think they have a legitimate beef with western democracy and Christianity, let them voice their opposition. But if you target my friend down the street, well, sorry, I want you dead.
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| #20 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:14 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| That guy has a leftist agenda and he chooses only bits of information that support it... |
So you don't believe anyone with a leftist agenda, right? |
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| #21 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:16 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| Moore's film made so many politicians so angry -- including both Democrats and Republicans -- that they got together and made film in response, called "Fahrenhype 9/11". It not only explains Moore's misinformation, but it also exposes the camera and editing tricks he used to create the false impression. The best thing to do is to watch both movies on the same night, first Moore's movie and then the other one. |
When is "Fahrenhypehype 9/11". on release? :lol: |
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| #22 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:26 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| Molly wrote: |
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| Moore's film made so many politicians so angry -- including both Democrats and Republicans -- that they got together and made film in response, called "Fahrenhype 9/11". It not only explains Moore's misinformation, but it also exposes the camera and editing tricks he used to create the false impression. The best thing to do is to watch both movies on the same night, first Moore's movie and then the other one. |
When is "Fahrenhypehype 9/11". on release? :lol: |
Can you write that in understandable English? |
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| #23 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 2:58 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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If someone wants to make a documentary, he must show both (or more) sides. Moore is, sorry, simply preaching to his socialist choir. And like many of the Hollywood Left Elite, he is a hypocrite: he mocks and speaks out against the rich, while he himself is rich. I hear the Hollywood Left doing a lot of bitching, but not a lot of helping with all the money they have.
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| #24 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 3:59 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| nesma22 wrote: |
| hello i think 119 is very important day no one can forget it frankly i sympthize with american pepole and victims but america is dictator country oppress us as arab and moslim cover the violent israeli works against palestinian because of this Osama bin ladn wanted o tell american government stop killing and oppressing us we can protect ourselves and our religion we are here you have to respect us every day there is blod in palestine,iraq where was the american government which claims it is the protector of human rights when they kill us no one speaks even a word but when we response and defend they raise their voice moslim are killer . i think this is not fair |
I noticed that the last time there was a ceasefire called between the Israelis and the Palestinians, then Palestinians immediately started killing each other. In my opinion, the Palestinian people need to do a very serious critical examination of themselves.
I was wondering if you could explain this video to us:
http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=214&ar=1304wmv&ak=null |
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| #25 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 4:27 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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What are the barriers to a Palestinian state? If that would help to curb the bloodshed, it might be a good idea. What parts of Israel were not Israel/Judah in biblical times?
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| #26 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:12 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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When is "Fahrenhypehype 9/11". on release?
Can you write that in understandable English? |
I thought you would have got that one easily, Jamie.
Fahrenhypehype 9/11 would be a film about the hype in Farenhype 9/11. |
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| #27 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:15 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| If someone wants to make a documentary, he must show both (or more) sides. Moore is, sorry, simply preaching to his socialist choir. |
It was a very successful and well-received film world over. Do you think his all his audience were socialist-minded?
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| I hear the Hollywood Left doing a lot of bitching, but not a lot of helping with all the money they have. |
What are the Hollywwod right doing? |
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| #28 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:33 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| Molly wrote: |
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| I hear the Hollywood Left doing a lot of bitching, but not a lot of helping with all the money they have. |
What are the Hollywwod right doing? |
Mostly getting blacklisted from the film and TV industry. |
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| #29 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:45 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| What are the barriers to a Palestinian state? If that would help to curb the bloodshed, it might be a good idea. What parts of Israel were not Israel/Judah in biblical times? |
What I can't understand is why Jewish people consider they have a right to recreate and maintain a state which disappeared a long time ago. It's a bit like the Muslims wanting to recreate Al Andaluz (present day Andalusia), isn't it?
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And what are the barriers to the USA? |
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| #30 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:48 am What does 9/11 mean to you? |
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| Mostly getting blacklisted from the film and TV industry. |
But what are they doing with their riches? |
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