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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?


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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #136 (permalink) Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:53 am   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hello Torsten and everybody there around. I have no much time to be here on forum, but, being a middle English lover, I have an quite interesting question. What is distinction between 'thy' and 'thine'? I hope that the answer will be distinguished well enough for me to comprehend. Thank you in advance, Alexander.
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #137 (permalink) Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:38 am   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hi Change,

I guess you'll like this page which explains all those 'middle English' words clearly and simply:
http://ecclesia.org/truth/thou.html
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #138 (permalink) Thu Apr 14, 2011 16:31 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hello Bizzie, here I am again. I am afraid I did not get the explanation I need. That article is nice, telling the things exactly the way I see it: replacing 'thee', 'ye', 'thou' and so on with just 'you' and 'your' is nothing but a devaluation of the language, muddy and ambigous. And this is why I LOVE middle English, to my opinion today's English is good for poetry and lyrics only. But I still did not receive an explanation about 'thy' and 'thine'. There is an example: 'Take up THY couch, and go into THINE house.' There must be some distinction, but it is not precisely explained. The similar thing is with the Lord's prayer, right? Best regards, I shall be waiting, Alexander
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #139 (permalink) Thu Apr 14, 2011 18:04 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Like "my" and "mine" and "a" and "an", in Middle English "thy" used to become "thine" if it came before a vowel.

Thy nose. Thine eye.
My nose. Mine eye.
A nose. An eye.

Also, like my/mine, when used as a predicative adjective "thy" became "thine".

Thy house. (Your house - subjective form) That house is thine. (That house is yours - objective form)
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #140 (permalink) Thu Apr 14, 2011 18:24 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

WOW!!! It never entered my mind! I have been wondering for years about that detail. Thank you very much indeed! Alexander
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #141 (permalink) Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:07 am   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

oh, I'm really glad to take part in forum.

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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #142 (permalink) Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:56 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

In my opinion, the better way to improve vocabulary in english is : Read more in english(News, book, novel, ) - listen de radio or/and tv program in english. even si you don't understand continues. when will you heard the same word several times in the differents context you can remember and you use it well.
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #143 (permalink) Thu Apr 28, 2011 16:42 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

hello every one,

Iam moroccan student,and i like communicating in English as a second language as well as exchanging ideas and opinions with others.Thanks all
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #144 (permalink) Thu Apr 28, 2011 17:10 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

hello,

thanks for your comment. It seems to me that we, you and I, stand on the same ground. Yes, without reading we can not improve our language in general becouse the more we read, the more we remmember and get new words.however, reading most of times is not enough to improve our language. I know many students who read a lot of books, newspapers and novels, as well as they get good marks,but when it comes to face to face communication, they find difficulty to communicate.Communicating with others moivate us to improve our language.Thanks
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #145 (permalink) Sun May 01, 2011 21:52 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hi everyone,
I wonder if someone can help me to provide me with some rules how to pronounce the words correctly. Pronuciation is my anxiety in English.

Thank you
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #146 (permalink) Sun May 01, 2011 22:24 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hello Saiomust,

There are a large number of phonemes (letter sound blends) in English. It's not possible to produce a concise set of rules, but you might find this useful:
http://www.onestopenglish.com/skills/pronunciation/phonemic-chart-and-app/interactive-phonemic-chart/
(Beware: There are a few strange sounds on there though! Note the comments underneath the chart for details!)

You can also listen to how most words are pronounced using an online dictionary, such as this Learner's Dictionary. (Click the loudspeaker icons to hear the words.)
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #147 (permalink) Fri May 06, 2011 16:55 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

hi Mr torsten,
i would like to have one lesson which explain me how to use the prépositions (on,at,i ,of,etc....)
thank you for your big job !
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #148 (permalink) Fri May 06, 2011 16:58 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hi everybody !
i wanted to have a corresponding.I am a english lover and i like sharing with another person !
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #149 (permalink) Thu May 19, 2011 19:52 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hi every one Idont know how put my picture in this
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Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL? #150 (permalink) Thu May 19, 2011 19:58 pm   Are there winners and losers in the world of ESL?
 

Hello Fakhair,

Welcome to the forums.

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