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we best learn a language by using that language #16 (permalink) Wed Sep 17, 2008 13:51 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

No; Stew's words have left me interested.

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we best learn a language by using that language #17 (permalink) Wed Sep 17, 2008 13:56 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Try e-mail.
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we best learn a language by using that language #18 (permalink) Wed Sep 17, 2008 23:52 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

You seem rather prescriptive about who posts what, old boy.

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we best learn a language by using that language #19 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 0:04 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Just picking up on Ralf's complaints, old stirrer.
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we best learn a language by using that language #20 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:35 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Might be useful:

"use and usage: Use is how the language is used in communication, or the function of language. This can be contrasted with usage, which is the grammatical explanation of some language."

http://bogglesworldesl.com/glossary/useusage.htm
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we best learn a language by using that language #21 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:00 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Hi Mr P

I guess the usage of a language is how you learn. And you can learn that Danger Dave/David is a thing we guys use for lots of mates/people with then name David.

This usage of the language I apply to people with a compliment, and as in Willis also as it is dangerous to hold true to all his ideas.
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we best learn a language by using that language #22 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:18 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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and as in Willis also as it is dangerous to hold true to all his ideas.


I think Danger David would agree with you on that, wouldn't he?
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we best learn a language by using that language #23 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:29 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Thanks for that, Stew. I'm interested that Willis should be so well known in the world of ESL.

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we best learn a language by using that language #24 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:31 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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I'm interested that Willis should be so well known in the world of ESL.


Not by most students. :wink:
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we best learn a language by using that language #25 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:44 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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Some people know Dave Willis more intimately than others.
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we best learn a language by using that language #26 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:51 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Jane, for example? Hey, do ESL folks stateside know Doug Biber well?
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we best learn a language by using that language #27 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:15 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

It would be strange if he showed up here.

(Willis, I mean, not Doug. I think Doug's out of town.)

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we best learn a language by using that language #28 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:20 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

MrPedantic wrote:
I think Doug's out of town.
Let's send out a task force to find him.
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we best learn a language by using that language #29 (permalink) Sat Sep 20, 2008 19:57 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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MrPedantic wrote:
I think Doug's out of town.
Let's send out a task force to find him.
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He'll come to you with words such as this:

"Conversation is the most commonplace, everyday variety of language, from which, if anything, the written variety, acquired through a painstaking and largely institutional processes of education is to be regarded as a departure." Biber et al.
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we best learn a language by using that language #30 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 0:09 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Molly wrote:
"Conversation is the most commonplace, everyday variety of language, from which, if anything, the written variety, acquired through a painstaking and largely institutional processes of education is to be regarded as a departure." Biber et al.


Certainly it is a more painful process for some than for others.

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