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we best learn a language by using that language #31 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:34 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

MrPedantic wrote:
Certainly it is a more painful process for some than for others.

MrP


Often it's made more painful by the participation of a pain in the ar*e addressee.
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we best learn a language by using that language #32 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 10:57 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

By the way, you've incorporated the same mistake into your signature here, at English Page.

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we best learn a language by using that language #33 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 13:30 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

MrPedantic wrote:
By the way, you've incorporated the same mistake into your signature here, at English Page.

MrP


Do your friends consider you as boring and repetitive as I do?
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we best learn a language by using that language #34 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 16:20 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Molly wrote:
"Conversation is the most commonplace, everyday variety of language, from which, if anything, the written variety, acquired through a painstaking and largely institutional processes of education is to be regarded as a departure." Biber et al.

Oddly enough, someone named "M56" used exactly the same wording over at Antimoon:
http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t7054.htm

I wonder whether Biber actually wrote that.
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we best learn a language by using that language #35 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 16:35 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

That's remarkable, Amy :?

And as you say, this M56 character makes exactly the same mistake as Bridget and Molly:

1. "...acquired through a painstaking and largely institutional processes..."

Yet that was in 2007. :?

Now what are the chances of that happening, I wonder?

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we best learn a language by using that language #36 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 17:19 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Hi MrP

Do you think "et al" means "M56, Molly and Bridget"? Do you think that might be the reason I can't google that quote as being attributable to Biber? Do you think poor Biber knows anything about this particular quote?
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we best learn a language by using that language #37 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 0:43 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

I certainly think he wouldn't much care for being the tail on the asinus.

By the way, I've noticed a very strange thing about that chap over at Antimoon – Molky, or Brolly, or Midget, or whatever his name is. He seems to post exactly the same posts as a certain member here, but several months in advance.

Would that be a case of predictive texting, I wonder?

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we best learn a language by using that language #38 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:18 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

MrP wrote:
Would that be a case of predictive texting, I wonder?
Could it be a case of prescriptive texting instead? What about persistive texting? Proliferative texting?
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we best learn a language by using that language #39 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:51 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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Oddly enough, someone named "M56" used exactly the same wording over at Antimoon:


You need to catch up, Amy. Long ago I said that M56 was my husband.

As I said about MrP, you seem to be more concerned with attacking me than commenting on Jamie's anti-Muslim posts, for example. Odd choice of focus, if you ask me. Flock on.

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And as you say, this M56 character makes exactly the same mistake as Bridget and Molly:


And again, I've never hid the fact that Bridget is the name I use on a few other fora. Well you know that.

And Amy/MrP, do tell us where Biber made a "mistake", will you?
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we best learn a language by using that language #40 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:56 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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Do you think "et al" means "M56, Molly and Bridget"? Do you think that might be the reason I can't google that quote as being attributable to Biber? Do you think poor Biber knows anything about this particular quote?


Or maybe it's because you are as thick as a brick and digitally incompetent.

Try: Conversation By Scott Thornbury, Diana Slade

http://books.google.es/books?id=V_Q9JnIqqVcC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=%22Conversation+is+the+most+commonplace,+everyday+variety+of+language%22&source=web&ots=02MJnE_ndh&sig=uX9LvS_VcfJ47UPVLlE4d32dKYU&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result
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we best learn a language by using that language #41 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:58 am   we best learn a language by using that language
 

MrPedantic wrote:
I certainly think he wouldn't much care for being the tail on the asinus.

By the way, I've noticed a very strange thing about that chap over at Antimoon – Molky, or Brolly, or Midget, or whatever his name is. He seems to post exactly the same posts as a certain member here, but several months in advance.

Would that be a case of predictive texting, I wonder?

MrP


Again, I use MollyB over there, as well you know. How banal your attempts are becoming. Flock on, MrP. While you spend your time doing this, Jamie is running racist/Islamaphobic wild all over certain students. Just shows where your political leaning lies, so to speak. Clique on.
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we best learn a language by using that language #42 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 13:58 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

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Are you claiming that it was Scott Thornbury and Diana Slade who misquoted Biber et al?
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we best learn a language by using that language #43 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 17:08 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Molly wrote:
You need to catch up, Amy. Long ago I said that M56 was my husband.


So, you make the same mistakes with your husband ?. That sounds spurious, coupled with him ostensibly being a native speaker. I'm not buying that
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we best learn a language by using that language #44 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 18:31 pm   we best learn a language by using that language
 

Molly wrote:
Long ago I said that M56 was my husband.


M56 presents himself as a native middle-aged British male; Bridget, as a young non-native female, from a remote part of Nigeria.

And yet their styles are indistinguishable.

How could that be, M?

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we best learn a language by cutting and pasting #45 (permalink) Sun Sep 28, 2008 18:51 pm   we best learn a language by cutting and pasting
 

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That repeatedly pasted quote made me wonder whether Danger Dave might eventually embrace the theory that "we best learn a language by repeatedly pasting a misquoted sample of it in various places".

By the way, M, does the fact that you've now edited your original Biber quote mean that you think the version of the Biber quote in Scott Thornbury and Diana Slade's book is probably the correct version?

The version with "a ... processes" results in about 206 Google hits, but Google finds only one result for the Thornbury/Slade version. How can we be sure whether Biber et al ever even wrote any of that quote? :shock:
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