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"in street" or "on street"? #16 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:21 am   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Sorry for saying this but still I didn't get the answer for the question.I know that all what u said is about using in in some places and on in other places but suppose that this was a question in some kind of a test what are we going to choose ( in king street ) or ( on king street )
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"in street" or "on street"? #17 (permalink) Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:26 am   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi Waelsaeed

I would say that most reputable standardized tests will accept either "in" or "on".

In American English, we would only use "on" in that sentence. In British English, it appears to be more typical to use "in" in that particular sentence.
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"in street" or "on street"? #18 (permalink) Fri Sep 19, 2008 16:59 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi MrP,

MrPedantic wrote:
where the name describes its function.

=> could you please be a bit more specific about this? Does it mean:
- High street: the street is high
- London road: a road in London?

Quote:
4. I've got to meet him in the high street. [Your addressee knows you mean High St Kensington.

=> What does 'addressee' here mean, MrP? (I can only find one definition for 'addressee' in most dictionaries, which is 'The addressee of a letter or parcel is the person or company that it is addressed to', but I don't think it suits this case) and, how can the addressee know the speaker means High st Kensington? Do you mean there is only one high street, and that is High Street Kensington?

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"in street" or "on street"? #19 (permalink) Fri Sep 19, 2008 17:16 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi Nessie

While you're waiting for MrP, you could take a look here for information about "(the) High Street":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Street

By the way, why don't you start a thread about your experiences and adventures as a brand-spanking-new university student? I bet lots of people would be interested in hearing about that.
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"in street" or "on street"? #20 (permalink) Fri Sep 19, 2008 23:54 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hello Nessie,

To answer your questions in order:

1. As Amy's link suggests, the main street in a town is usually called "High St" on signs, and referred to as "the high street".

2. Many towns in England have a "London Road": originally, it was the road that led to London. On signs, they appear as "London Road"; but they are often referred to as "the London road".

3. If I say something to you, you are the "addressee": the person to whom my comment is addressed. In discussions of language, this is the usual meaning of the word; elsewhere, your "letter/parcel" definition would probably apply.

4. When you are in a particular area, "the high street" means the local high street. So if I'm in Kensington, and say "I'll meet you in the high street", the other person will assume I mean "Kensington High St".

Let me know if it's still unclear!

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"in street" or "on street"? #21 (permalink) Sat Sep 20, 2008 15:15 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

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So if I'm in Kensington, and say "I'll meet you in the high street", the other person will assume I mean "Kensington High St".


And you don't always have to be in Kensington for the addressee to know where you mean.
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"in street" or "on street"? #22 (permalink) Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:51 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

What about "at"? I had learned we only use at when the number of the building is mentioned, but recently I have seen an example on a book:

I live at 4th Street. (although 4th would be a number it refers to the name of the street here)
I live at 798 Main Ave. (here it refers to the number of the building)

So, what's the difference? American X British?
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"in street" or "on street"? #23 (permalink) Fri Sep 26, 2008 13:34 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi Vi

Basically, we use "at" to refer to a specific street address or location.
In other words, we use "at" when we give an address -- i.e. a street and a street number, as in your example:
- I live at 798 Main Street.

We also use "at" to refer to a location such as a specific intersection:
- I live at the corner of Elm Street and Fifth Avenue.
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"in street" or "on street"? #24 (permalink) Fri Sep 26, 2008 13:51 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

That's the point, I saw it on a school book:

"make a left at 48th Street" (this is not a street address)

Would it be because it suggests it is at the corner of? Or is it wrong?
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"in street" or "on street"? #25 (permalink) Fri Sep 26, 2008 14:24 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi Vi

Quote:
Would it be because it suggests it is at the corner of?
Yes, that's the general idea. What the speaker basically means is "turn left at the point where 48th Street intersects (the street you're already on)". The speaker is looking at the place where you have to turn as a specific point/location.

However, in this particular context you will also hear people say "Turn left on/onto 48th Street. (The Brits might use "in/into" in this context.)

Also keep in mind that "48th Street" is the name of a street, and not a house or building number. So, if you live on 48th Street and your house number is 623, you could say "I live at 623 Forty-eighth Street".
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"in street" or "on street"? #26 (permalink) Fri Sep 26, 2008 15:10 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Thanks for your reply, Yankee.
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"in street" or "on street"? #27 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 13:48 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Quote:
While you're waiting for MrP, you could take a look here for information about "(the) High Street":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Street


Hi Amy,
First of all, thanks a lot for the useful link. I also have some query about it:

Quote:
The equivalent in the United States, Canada, and Ireland is Main Street, a term also used in smaller towns and villages in Scotland. In Jamaica, North East England, and some sections of Canada and the United States, the usual term is Front Street. In Cornwall and some towns in Devon, the equivalent is Fore Street.


From this I understand that 'Main Street' is the American equivalent of 'High Street' (BrE), but I was confused when reading on:

Quote:
High Street is the most common street name in the UK. According to a survey by the Halifax, there are 5,410 High Streets, compared to 3,811 Station Roads, and 2,702 Main Streets.


From this it seems that both terms 'High Street' and 'Main Street' are used in the UK.
So, my two quotes seem to be so contradictory...

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"in street" or "on street"? #28 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 15:09 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hello Nessie,

In England, you would be more likely to encounter a "Main St" in a village or small town (much like "Fore St" in Cornwall). It might well be largely residential.

"High St" on the other hand implies in general usage a shopping street. To add to the confusion, you can say you're "going to the high street" in a town without a street called "High", if your implication is "the chief shopping street".

I would guess that most people in England have experience of a "High St", rather than a "Main St". If you were to tell me that you lived in Main St, I would immediately picture a charming village with an antiques shop or two, or perhaps an old Scottish town, in venerable grey stone, with a decaying castle; but if you said you lived in the high street, I would picture supermarkets and the Golden Arches.

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"in street" or "on street"? #29 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 15:52 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

Hi Nessie

There are probably millions of proper names for streets -- among those proper names are "High Street" and "Main Street". (Note the capitalization!) Both of those are common names for streets in the US.

In my part of the world, we would refer generally/generically to the primary street in a town as being "the main street". That is basically a descriptive reference to the type of street, not the actual name of the street. In bigger towns and in cities, there might be a number of main streets. These main streets typically have things such as shops, banks and other businesses located on them. They are not usually residential streets (or not primarily residential anyway).

The proper name of the main/primary street in the town where I grew up is "Broadway". The town where I grew up has neither a street named "Main Street" nor a street named "High Street".

However, the town next to my hometown has both a street named "Main Street" and a street named "High Street". :lol: There the street named "Main Street" is the primary street in town on which businesses are located. In that town, the street called "Main Street" is also one of the main/primary streets. It also runs all the way through the town -- from the northern side of town to the southern side. So, in that particular town "Main Street" is also the main/primary "through road".
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"in street" or "on street"? #30 (permalink) Sat Sep 27, 2008 16:01 pm   "in street" or "on street"?
 

If you exchange "main" and "high", Amy's post applies to my experience too.

Amy wrote:
In my part of the world, we would refer generally/generically to the primary street in a town as being "the main street". That is basically a descriptive reference to the street, not the actual name of the street.


I think that's the tricky part – that it's essentially descriptive, but can be treated as a proper name.

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