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Outside or outside of? #1 (permalink) Tue Sep 16, 2008 13:47 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

On Sept. 2, Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier was shot several times outside of the apartment of a woman he had met at a nightclub...

The news on the internet went on, but my question is in regard of the body of the sentence above that includes "outside of the apartment of a woman...", is this proper grammar, or should it be "outside the apartment of a woman...?

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Outside or outside of? #2 (permalink) Tue Sep 16, 2008 14:45 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

That's the first thing I saw as well - "outside of" seems odd to me.

Is it wrong? I'm not sure. But is simply "outside" preferable? To my mind, yes.
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Outside or outside of? #3 (permalink) Tue Sep 16, 2008 18:43 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

Barb_D wrote:
That's the first thing I saw as well - "outside of" seems odd to me.

Is it wrong? I'm not sure. But is simply "outside" preferable? To my mind, yes.


Barb, thanks a million. :0)
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Outside or outside of? #4 (permalink) Sun Sep 21, 2008 6:30 am   Outside or outside of?
 

Hi Barb,

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Is it wrong? I'm not sure.


You're not sure? Please state your idea clearlier... And what about 'he was shot several times at the outside of the apartment...'?

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Outside or outside of? #5 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 14:47 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

Hi Barb, may I know your idea?

Thank you very much,
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Outside or outside of? #6 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 14:49 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

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On Sept. 2, Jaguars offensive tackle Richard Collier was shot several times outside of the apartment of a woman he had met at a nightclub...


It's a shortening of "on the outside of".
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Outside or outside of? #7 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 15:37 pm   Outside or outside of?
 

Nessie, I'm rarely in the business of saying "That is 100% wrong" or "That is absolutely incorrect." When I compare to a stanard, I use "Business English" of the American variety.

You will hear people say "I got down off of the bus." Many people would frown at that. I got off the bus, I got down off the bus (if there were steps), but not "down off of" - saying the "of" was not necessary and was, in fact, sub-standard.

However, it's so commonly said that perhaps one day it will become standard. That's why I often won't say "it's wrong!" when it sounds off to my ear. (Note I say "often" - if you come back at me with "Is 'I seen it' okay?" I will tell you "NO!")
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