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| prezbucky wrote: |
I hadn't heard of the "boycott Spanish products" movement either.
On the other hand, there was a push for French fries to be re-named "Freedom fries" several years back. |
Well, that was because the French government was actively undermining the US and even actively providing intelligence and selling weapons to our enemies, and those enemies were killing our men with the French weapons. There was a boycott (not a ban!) of French products for a while that actually hurt their export and tourist industry.
There's a world of difference between that and just deciding not to participate in a war anymore after the enemy attacks you at home. Some people were mad at the Spanish for that, and others understood, whether they agreed or disagreed. No ban of Spanish products, though, and no boycott. I doubt that even one-tenth of one percent of Americans even heard about such an idea.
What do we ever buy from Spain anyway, except for a few jars of olives and a little wine? Maybe it seems like a ban just because Spain hardly sells anything here to begin with. |
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| #33 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 17:33 pm Your Last Meal |
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guitars?
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| What do we ever buy from Spain anyway, except for a few jars of olives and a little wine? Maybe it seems like a ban just because Spain hardly sells anything here to begin with. |
There no excuse for ignorance, Jamie.
Fastest-Growing Spanish Exports to U.S.
Below are American imports from Spain in 2006 with the highest percentage sales increases from 2005.
Crude oil … US$13.9 million (new import since 2005)
Nuclear materials & fuels … $3.1 million (new import since 2004)
Civilian aircraft (complete) … $34.3 million (up 4542.4%)
Non-chemical materials … $2.2 million (up 309.3%)
Generators, transformers & accessories … $384.6 million (up 184.1%)
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| #35 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 18:51 pm Your Last Meal |
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have we imported tapas though?
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| #36 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 23:38 pm Your Last Meal |
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| have we imported tapas though? |
You exchanged 'em for burgers. Unfair swap, mebbe? :wink: |
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| #37 (permalink) Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:16 am Your Last Meal |
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maybe there's a cheeseburger tapa. hehe
It does seem like a neat idea though -- small portions of different flavors, different dishes.
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| Talking about Mexican food, I remember a while back some American websites called for a ban on Spanish products due to Spain's stance on Afghanistan, etc. Thing is, quite a few of those sites listed tacos and burritos as products to ban. Odd, right? |
I never heard word boo about that, probably just some morons on their personal site. Just goes to show how idiotic some people can be, doubly so since tacos and burritos aren't Spanish. They're not even Mexican.
Much of what we consider 'Mexican' food originated in the American Southwest. Tacos, as we think of them (a hard crunchy shell filled with meat, lettuce, and cheese), burritos, chile con carne, chimichangas, enchiladas, and fajitas are all a result of 'Tex-Mex' cuisine, Americanization of Mexican cooking.
What we would call a 'soft taco', the idea of a tortilla filled with various ingredients and rolled or folded up is what Mexicans typically refer to as a taco, but the concept again reaches further back to ancient indigenous cultures of the region. Burritos are also based off this ancient idea of a filled tortilla, but the burrito as we know it is American. Supposedly it originated in an area between Tuscon and LA.
Sopaipillas are linked to Albuquerque, although some 300 years ago, so they're technically not American I suppose. Depending on how you want to view it, I guess you could call them Spanish, although not from Spain.
Tamales, salsa, tortillas (maize, not flour), and posole all originated with the Mesoamericans. Chiles were unknown to the Spaniards until they reached the New World. Flan came to Spain via the Romans.
Churros are one of the few actual 'Spanish' foods widely eaten and familiar to us Yanks, (although even then under the guise of 'Mexican' ).
Mention 'Spanish food' to an American, and I'd wager the fast majority of us would mistakenly find it synonymous to so-called 'Mexican' food, it in itself a misnomer.
So those dingbats likely didn't even know what they were calling for with such a 'ban'.
Damn, all that made me really hungry, and it's two in the morning... :x
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There is a burger tapa/pincho.
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Churros/Churritos and hot chocolate. Mmm!
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| Churros/Churritos and hot chocolate. Mmm! |
Spaniards were the first Europeans to taste chocolate, but not until the 1500's, while Mayans and Aztecs had been using it for at least 1,300 years before that. Evidence now shows Olmecs were using it as early as 1100 b.c., apparently in the form of an alcoholic beverage.
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| Is that an AmEng expression, Skrej? |
Rephrasing of AmE phrase ' to not say (a word) boo'. Perhaps regional in addition, but not widespread regardless.
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I've heard that expression in my neck of the woods simply as "not say boo", and I've also heard "would not say boo to a goose".
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| #42 (permalink) Thu Sep 25, 2008 16:57 pm Your Last Meal |
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I've seen food shows about the famous Mexican hot chocolate... looks absolutely delicious. If I'm not mistaken there was a recipe that included cinnamon.
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But does "not to say a word boo" work? Sounds redundant. |
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| But does "not to say a word boo" work? Sounds redundant. |
Redundant or not, have you ever heard of any rule stating that an idiom can't sound redundant? :?
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So what's everyone having for dinner/breakfast/lunch tonight/this morning/today (hehe -- depending where you are on this sphere)?
When I get home at 6:30 or so tonight, I will embark on a fabulous spaghetti-making adventure with my friend/girlfriend/roommate.
We've got about three pounds of ground chuck thawing in the fridge as we speak... will add a couple large cans of spaghetti sauce and a bunch of noodles and will likely end up with a large pan with roughly 7-8 pounds of spaghetti in it, off which we'll feed for the next 2-3 days.
(She'll do the sauce while i'll boil and drain the spaghetti -- i'm prideful in some things, but cooking is not one of them, so she'll do the important work. lol)
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