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This is my country | Another question for Torsten, or anyone familiar with ESL in German schools.
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Forgiveness and excusing. Tue Sep 23, 2008 16:48 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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When referring to the issue of child abuse, my statement is pure and simple. It should not have happened, regardless of why it happened. It should not be allowed to happen again, regardless of why it happened. To excuse something is to allow that perhaps the deed done was not quite as foul, all things considered. There is no excusing of child abuse, period
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OK, got it now. Thanks for the clarification.

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However, to me, that's only a half-step away from doing the crime yourself.

That sounds like one of Jamie's schoolyard taunts. School's out, isn't it? Shocked
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Forgiveness and excusing. Tue Sep 23, 2008 16:51 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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What do you guys think of the use of corporal punishment for heinous crime?

It shouldn't be forgiven. Wink

Well, in my country caning is used against sex offenders. For instance, a common punishment for a man who raped his own daughter or other children will be an imprisonment of 7 to 20 years, with 3 or 4 strokes of caning. But the caning is done one stroke at a time, with the next stroke carried out after the first wound has healed. Also, the amount of strokes indicted depends on the person's health and age. Sometimes we have a 70-year-old grandfather raping his own granddaughter. In this case he might only receive life imprisonment without the caning.

But because of the severity of the punishment, judges usually are hesitant to rule out the verdict. So we might have real sex offenders released on a technicality or insufficient evidence, fundamentally because the judges rather set people free than to have the wrong guy convicted.
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Forgiveness and excusing. Tue Sep 23, 2008 16:55 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
So do you agree with corporal punishment for heinous crime, NinaZ?
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Forgiveness and excusing. Tue Sep 23, 2008 17:05 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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So do you agree with corporal punishment for heinous crime, NinaZ?

No matter how much I reason in the name of human rights, my heart cannot accept it, so yes, with the right application, I do not think judicial corporal punishment such as the one I mentioned, is so cruel that it is unacceptable.

Heck, if it was up to me, I cut his thing off! And because of this, I believe this matter of punishing sex offenders must be given to a person who can be objective in his rulings/judgment.
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Forgiveness and excusing. Tue Sep 23, 2008 21:34 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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Heck, if it was up to me, I cut his thing off! And because of this, I believe this matter of punishing sex offenders must be given to a person who can be objective in his rulings/judgment.

Shocked

I'm sure work can be found for you in other areas, NinaZ. Wink
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:09 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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Heck, if it was up to me, I cut his thing off! And because of this, I believe this matter of punishing sex offenders must be given to a person who can be objective in his rulings/judgment.

Shocked

I'm sure work can be found for you in other areas, NinaZ. Wink

Actually, I think I'd make a great judge. Cool (kidding!)
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:14 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
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Actually, I think I'd make a great judge. (kidding!)

Judge Dredd? Wink
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:30 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
I love him!
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:34 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
LOL, Nina -- Your nickname is hereafter "Judge Dredd". hehe

If I'm not mistaken, courts here have ordered -- in dire cases, like a particularly heinous sexual crime or with repeat offenders -- that the sexual predator have his testicles removed.

Either the gonads are removed, or he's neutered like a dog... not sure which.

Either way, these guys are sort of turned into eunuchs.
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:23 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
Can eunuchs still feel arousal? If they do, there's no point in cutting them.
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:47 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
NinaZara wrote:
Can eunuchs still feel arousal? If they do, there's no point in cutting them.

Well, I don't know about that. Lots of men feel arousal around 3am Sunday morning after a night on the booze, but can they do anything about it? Not usually. Laughing
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Forgiveness and excusing. Wed Sep 24, 2008 18:14 pm  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
ROFL

there's a phrase for that condition, Molly (and it's PG-13 or worse, so parental guidance is suggested):

Whiskey Dick
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Forgiveness and excusing. Thu Sep 25, 2008 0:41 am  Forgiveness and excusing.		  
prezbucky wrote:
ROFL

there's a phrase for that condition, Molly (and it's PG-13 or worse, so parental guidance is suggested):

Whiskey Dick

Always slipping in and out of sticky situations, that boy. Embarassed Laughing
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