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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?



 
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #1 (permalink) Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:50 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

Hey

What do "should have to" and "should need" mean in english?
What's the meaning of "the last leg of race" in english"?
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #2 (permalink) Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:17 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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I'll need your context sentences for your first question, but the 'last leg of a race' is the last section of it.
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #3 (permalink) Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:59 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

Mr M is correct, we should need context before we answer.
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Context Sentences for should have to and should need #4 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:02 am   Context Sentences for should have to and should need
 

Here are the context sentences for "should have to" and "should need":

No One "Should Have to" Stand in Line for 10 Hours to Vote

Type traits should need consider extended integral types.
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #5 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:21 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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No one should have to stand in line = It is not right/proper that people (must / be required to / find it necessary to) stand in line

Type traits should need consider extended integral types. -- This sentence seems incorrectly composed to me; it would read better as:

Type traits (should be / need to be) considered extended integral types
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #6 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:21 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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No One "Should Have to" Stand in Line for 10 Hours to Vote


The situation forces/obliges (have to) people to stand in line for 10 hours. That should not happen. It's unfair. The shouldn't have to/be obliged do that.

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Type traits should need consider extended integral types.


Type traits will/may probably need to consider integral types
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #7 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:24 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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Yes, Molly's rephrasings are also good options.
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #8 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 7:55 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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This sentence seems incorrectly composed to me; it would read better as:

Type traits (should be / need to be) considered extended integral types


Is it the "should need (modal) + verb" you find incorrect?

How about this one?

"She knew that as a Deacon she was still an uncommon enough phenomenon in the Church to evoke curiosity. She had, therefore, dressed to escape notice in a dark linen suit and silk shirt, she had judged it, however, to be an occasion for a clerical collar, lest the Bishop should need reminding."

Unholy ghosts. Greenwood, D M. London: Headline Book Pub. plc, 1991
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #9 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:04 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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should need consider

I found that incorrect and offered alternative readings.
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What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English? #10 (permalink) Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:06 am   What do 'should have to' and 'should need' mean in English?
 

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should need consider

I found that incorrect and offered alternative readings.
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Here's (I think) the original:

(STDCXX-981) type traits should need consider extended integral types

http://www.nabble.com/Created:-(STDCXX-981)-type-traits-should-need-consider-extended-integral-types-td18228778.html

The permissibilty of adjacent modals seem OK to me, as "need" is considered semi-modal.
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