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#32 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 0:20 am Counting down? |
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Many students aren't in the real world until they have their first job out of college. Before college, when they were at home with their parents, they weren't paying the electric bill, cable bill... it's bills, bills, bills, bills and more bills.
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#33 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 0:21 am Counting down? |
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Saddam's removal, hopefully, will lead to an Iraq that is friendlier toward the West and cracks down on terrorist groups.
(other possible benefits)
As for teaching English online, first things first: I need to (finally) purchase an internet subscription for my home. LOL
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#34 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 2:54 am Counting down? |
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Many students aren't in the real world until they have their first job out of college. Before college, when they were at home with their parents, they weren't paying the electric bill, cable bill... it's bills, bills, bills, bills and more bills.
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Hey, Tom What about the huge debt that the Republicans have provided for every American? What about the blatant lies and propaganda and BS we've been consistently handed by Bush and his Republican cronies? Do you think it is OK that more Americans have died in Iraq than were killed at the WTC on 9/11?
Are you suggesting that the voting age should be raised? To what age? And what is the minimum number of bills that a person should have paid before they're permitted to vote? Whose voting rights do you think it appropriate to eliminate?
Are you suggesting that only people who make more than a certain income should be allowed to vote?
Are you suggesting that only people who agree with you and the Republicans are intelligent enough to be allowed to vote?
Are you suggesting that Democrats or people who vote for Democrats are somehow not Americans?
Do you realize that in the House of Representatives, there is no longer even one Republican from any of the New England states? (The last remaining one -- from Connecticut -- lost on Tuesday.) Would you prefer to ban all of us New Englanders from voting? Is that your brand of "democracy"?
Sorry, Tom, but in my opinion, what you've been spouting here is mainly BS and a whole lot of hot air. It's time to wake up and recognize the incredible amount of damage that has been done to our country by the Republicans in the past eight years. It's high time we started repairing that damage. Can we do it if we all work together? Yes, we can!!! . |
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#35 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:08 am Counting down? |
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Making incorrect predictions and lying are two different things. As for debt, budgets are passed by the prez and Congress. We have a war to win, and wars cost money. But I think it's important that we do win. We can't let various unsavory people in the world think that we don't have the stomach for fighting against radical insurgents or terrorists.
But of course we need a balanced budget. That is important.
As for Bush's "lies", I have yet to see proof of any. He's made predictions that haven't come true, but that doesn't make a person a liar... unlike his predecessor, who clearly did lie. He might not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but while pols generally aren't the most honest people on earth, there's been no proof that he lied.
What continues to get my goat is the insinuation that somehow Katrina was his fault. What was he supposed to do, nuke the hurricane? Build a giant wall? Go in himself and round up the people and cook their food? The head of FEMA, Nagin and the LA governor deserved more of the blame. The president isn't trained in disaster relief, nor does he have direct control over that state's (and city's) resources.
It seemed like when Gore's attempt to overturn Florida election laws failed in 2000, that basically turned dems against Bush, and they stayed mostly against him, even after he lowered almost everyone's taxes... which is about the nicest thing a president and Congress can do for us.
As for turning around the economy, we got ourselves into it mainly by failing to live within our means. We'll have to get ourselves out of it -- businesses and consumers and investors, not the government. We need higher taxes like we need a hole in the head.
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#36 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:44 am Counting down? |
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(sorry for the double-post here)
That is not to say government should do nothing when things like the home foreclosure crisis hits -- we were slow to see it coming... we could have tried to do something to keep lenders from giving out bad loans, and cracked down on the Wall Street folks involved in the unscrupulous trading related to the mess. We did do the $730B buyout thing... let's just hope it wasn't too late. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#37 (permalink) Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:37 am Counting down? |
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The administration's stance toward the Savings and Loan industry contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis. It is also suggested, by a minority of Reaganomics critics, that the policies partially influenced the stock market crash of 1987, but there is no consensus regarding a single source for the crash. In order to cover newly-spawned federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion. Reagan described the new debt as the "greatest disappointment" of his presidency.
He reappointed Paul Volcker as Chairman of the Federal Reserve, and in 1987 appointed monetarist Alan Greenspan to succeed him. Some economists, such as Nobel Prize winners Milton Friedman and Robert A. Mundell, argue that Reagan's tax policies invigorated America's economy and contributed to the economic boom of the 1990s Other economists, such as Nobel Prize winner Robert Solow, argue that the deficits were a major reason why Reagan's successor, George H. W. Bush, reneged on a campaign promise and raised taxes. |
Source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan Chapter Reaganomics and economy/bottom
I donīt think Ronald Reagan gained a huge success. He just took a loan from the fact that US-Americans feared .......hm, what really did they fear finally? USSR? Okay, whatever, Ronald Reagan spured the war machinery and increased the governments salery for the Army. Thus the employees of the American weapon industry were able to spend more money and made the nation feeling rich. But it was a loan only as the above quote shows, wasnīt it?
By the way, In the early 19th in Germany there was a "so called" politician whoīs main success (domestically) was to force the weapon industry in order to....... Nations people beneffited from that for a short time. But, unfortunately, that time Germany didnīt have a strong democratic politic, did it? History shows how it ended. Just to clarify: Iīd never allow myself to compare Ronald Reagan with Adolf Hitler since it were definitely not true (for sure).
But now itīs another point of time and The US Americans elected a new president who definetely must be skilly to solve huge problems. I think you, American voters, did a good job. Obama has to show whether he can stand the challenges (Iīm optimistically).
Also I must congratulate you for Obamas republic counterpart Mr. Mc Cain(seriously). In my conviction he honestly requested his fans to fully supply the Obama government. To show such behave after a hard election battle requests my respect. |
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#38 (permalink) Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:33 am Counting down? |
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The thing is, our economy shouldn't be controlled by government. Our government should be stewards of the economy and provide oversight when necessary, but ultimately the success of the economy depends on people like me, Amy, Jamie and other Americans -- businesses to employ us, provide investment opportunities for us, market great products and services to us; consumers to buy those goods and services, providing revenue to help keep those companies going; and investors to provide startup and operational capital.
Right now I think the best things the federal gov't could do would be to increase lending oversight, cut spending (quick, victorious withdrawal from Iraq would really help, as well as scaling back some programs), use domestic oil production in the short term while we gradually move toward other fuel sources, and balance the budget. That last part is a goal of every administration but it's rarely accomplished. If memory serves, the last successful attempt came with Clinton and the Republican-majority Congress. It's hard to quantify the actual effects of a budget deficit, considering that nobody calls in that debt (and we don't charge for our services either, generally, so maybe it's been a sort of global agreement), but I still don't like the fact that each year we sell a little more of our financing to other countries.
So Amy, I'm running for the House in 2010 in your state... as a Democrat. Then when I get in, I'll switch parties. Hehe _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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