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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'



 
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #1 (permalink) Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:01 am   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Could you please tell me which one is correct?

What I have been understood or

What I have been understanding
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #2 (permalink) Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:51 am   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Hi Eris,

The correct one is 'What I have been understood.'

The verb 'to understand' cannot be in progress. If you understood something, then you got it. The moment that you understand a thing is like when you turn on the light. The action of turning on the light is so fast and done quickly that it cannot be considered in a grogress. Therefore, the verb 'to understand' cannot be used in progressive tenses.

What I have been understood is that life is not easy.

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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #3 (permalink) Wed Nov 12, 2008 16:38 pm   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Sorry, Minh, I must disagree.
"What I have been understood" makes no sense.

You can use "understand" in the progressive to mean that you are in the process of acquiring an understanding, or just starting to understand it. Even so, the second phrase is not natural either.

What I understood was...
What I have been led to understand was...
As I understand it, ....

Eris, why don't you write out the full sentence and we can help you form it correctly.

(Note: You can say "What I have been understood by others to have said was... but what in fact I said was something completely different. In that case, the OTHERS understood, not you.)
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #4 (permalink) Thu Nov 13, 2008 5:30 am   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Ok, Barb and Minh.

I think I should write in the full sentences.

What I have been understood by somebody says there is a debatable issue on global warming.

Richard has been understood based on /from the past his experience.

I have been understanding so many times before taking the test.

please response
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #5 (permalink) Thu Nov 13, 2008 18:45 pm   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Eris, your sentences don't make a lot of sense to me.
I understand that the issue of global warming is debatable.
Richard understands (this? what?) because of his past experience. Richard's past experience gives him a greater understanding of .. what?
I thought I understood the material, and then I took the test and realized that I didn't understand at all.

If you use "I have been understood" or "Richard has been understood" it means that OTHER PEOPLE think you are giving a particular meaning. It does not relate to what you know or have learned yourself.
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #6 (permalink) Fri Nov 14, 2008 2:29 am   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

This means I should use PRESENT TENSE

I understand that the issue of global warming is debatable.
Richard understands that the issue of global warming is debatable.
Some people argue that the issue of global warming is debatable.

Richard has been understood of becoming hardworking would achieve the goal sucessfully.

or I use Modal form

Richard would achive the goal successfully if he was hardworking.

What happen to this following sentence? Is this correct?

I have been understanding so many times before taking the test.
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #7 (permalink) Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:08 am   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Eris wrote:
Richard has been understood of becoming hardworking would achieve the goal successfully.

This simply makes no sense.

Eris wrote:
Richard would successfully achieve the goal if he were hardworking.


Eris wrote:
I have been understanding so many times before taking the test.

This makes no sense.
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #8 (permalink) Fri Nov 14, 2008 12:07 pm   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

Hi, Alan
Could you tell me what sentence is correct:
1) I have been working as a teacher every day for 10 years. (but I don't work now)
2) I had been working as a teacher every day for 10 years. (but I don't work now)
3)I worked as a teacher every day for 10 years. (but I don't work now)
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'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding' #9 (permalink) Fri Nov 14, 2008 15:16 pm   'What I have been understood' or 'What I have been understanding'
 

I'm not Alan. Do you want me to respond? Generally, it's better to start a new thread if you have a question that is not related to the topic of discussion.
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