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Usage of 'want that' (I want that you should do it quickly.) | "is specified" and "has specified"
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have used or have been using #1 (permalink) Tue Nov 18, 2008 14:34 pm   have used or have been using
 

There are two sentences:

How long have you used this book?
How long have you been using this book?

The task is to choose the correct one (no context is given). To my mind both could be equally correct. But the anwer key says the first one is OK. Could you explain me why? If both are correct, could you also give me the context I could use the first and the second one in?

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have used or have been using #2 (permalink) Tue Nov 18, 2008 23:05 pm   have used or have been using
 

Hi Mskacang

There really isn't a lot of difference between them. I suppose the first one is more suggestive of individual and/or intermittent usages up to now, while the second one is a little bit more suggestive of a single, on-going usage. But this really is not an absolute difference.

For example, perhaps English 101 is a class that is offered every semester at a particular school. And perhaps there is a particular teacher who has taught English 101 for years. I might ask "how long have you used that book" if I basically wanted to know "how many semesters". In other words, "How many individual semesters/courses have you used that book for?"

On the other hand, if I knew that a teacher had started a course using Book A, and today I notice that the teacher is now using Book B for that course instead, I might ask "how long have you been using that book" (i.e. how long during this one particular course).

That's the basic difference I sense. However, I think those two particular sentences would be interchangeable in most contexts.
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have used or have been using #3 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 0:22 am   have used or have been using
 

Hi Amy,

Amy wrote:

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"how long have you been using that book"


Does " that book" mean book B, doesn't it?

Thank you Amy,

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have used or have been using #4 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 0:50 am   have used or have been using
 

Hi Mihn

Yes, the question would be about "Book B" in my example.
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have used or have been using #5 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:16 am   have used or have been using
 

Minh wrote:
Does " that book" mean book B, doesn't it?
It doesn't necessarily have to be connected with two different books, however. I might simply ask someone (during a given semester) whether "this particular book" is the course book they have been using all semester.
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have used or have been using #6 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:05 am   have used or have been using
 

I dont think these two statements can be interchangeble. If you know that foo has stoped using X book then you can use:

How long have you used this book?

but if foo still using that book then you can use:

How long have you been using this book?

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have used or have been using #7 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:17 am   have used or have been using
 

Hi Paresh,

Can you please tell me what the following words you mean -- you used them in your post and none of them exist in the English language: "dont", "interchangeble", "foo", "stoped"?

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have used or have been using #8 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:51 am   have used or have been using
 

Dear Amy

Thanks a lot for your promt help.

Have a nice day!

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have used or have been using #9 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:06 am   have used or have been using
 

Hmmm....
"dont"=don't
"interchangeble" = interchangeable
"foo" is a general word. I have used it here for some person's reference.
"stoped" = "stopped"

I think, I need to start using english dictionary. :-)
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have used or have been using #10 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 20:10 pm   have used or have been using
 

Masaniparesh wrote:
I dont think these two statements can be interchangeble. If you know that foo has stoped using X book then you can use:
If I knew that the person had stopped using the book (i.e. the person no longer uses the book at all), I'd choose the simple past tense:

- How long did you use this book?

As I mentioned in my first post, however, asking "how long have you used" (present perfect simple) tends to be more suggestive of a series of individual and/or intermittent usages. One way to interpret "I have used this book for (an amount of time)" is this way, for example:

- I used this book last Tuesday; I used this book last Thursday; I used the book yesterday; I used it again this morning.

In other words, a series of individual usages before or up to now:

last Tuesday = usage #1
last Thursday = usage #2
yesterday = usage #3
this morning (today) = usage #4

Because the present perfect refers to time up to now, there is a suggestion that such a series of individual usages will continue in the future. However, the present perfect does not actually refer to the future at all. It refers only to time before and up to the present.
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have used or have been using #11 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 20:31 pm   have used or have been using
 

Masaniparesh wrote:
I think, I need to start using english dictionary. :-)


A spell checker would do for starters.

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have used or have been using #12 (permalink) Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:00 am   have used or have been using
 

>> How long did you use this book?
I am totally agree with you Amy.

Thanks for explanation.
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