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#2 (permalink) Tue Nov 18, 2008 23:05 pm have used or have been using |
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Hi Mskacang
There really isn't a lot of difference between them. I suppose the first one is more suggestive of individual and/or intermittent usages up to now, while the second one is a little bit more suggestive of a single, on-going usage. But this really is not an absolute difference.
For example, perhaps English 101 is a class that is offered every semester at a particular school. And perhaps there is a particular teacher who has taught English 101 for years. I might ask "how long have you used that book" if I basically wanted to know "how many semesters". In other words, "How many individual semesters/courses have you used that book for?"
On the other hand, if I knew that a teacher had started a course using Book A, and today I notice that the teacher is now using Book B for that course instead, I might ask "how long have you been using that book" (i.e. how long during this one particular course).
That's the basic difference I sense. However, I think those two particular sentences would be interchangeable in most contexts. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#3 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 0:22 am have used or have been using |
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Hi Amy,
Amy wrote:
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Does " that book" mean book B, doesn't it?
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#4 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 0:50 am have used or have been using |
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Hi Mihn
Yes, the question would be about "Book B" in my example. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#5 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:16 am have used or have been using |
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| Minh wrote: |
| Does " that book" mean book B, doesn't it? |
It doesn't necessarily have to be connected with two different books, however. I might simply ask someone (during a given semester) whether "this particular book" is the course book they have been using all semester. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#6 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:05 am have used or have been using |
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I dont think these two statements can be interchangeble. If you know that foo has stoped using X book then you can use:
How long have you used this book?
but if foo still using that book then you can use:
How long have you been using this book?
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#7 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:17 am have used or have been using |
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Hi Paresh,
Can you please tell me what the following words you mean -- you used them in your post and none of them exist in the English language: "dont", "interchangeble", "foo", "stoped"?
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#8 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:51 am have used or have been using |
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Dear Amy
Thanks a lot for your promt help.
Have a nice day!
Krisztina |
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#9 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:06 am have used or have been using |
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Hmmm.... "dont"=don't "interchangeble" = interchangeable "foo" is a general word. I have used it here for some person's reference. "stoped" = "stopped"
I think, I need to start using english dictionary. :-) |
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#10 (permalink) Wed Nov 19, 2008 20:10 pm have used or have been using |
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| Masaniparesh wrote: |
| I dont think these two statements can be interchangeble. If you know that foo has stoped using X book then you can use: |
If I knew that the person had stopped using the book (i.e. the person no longer uses the book at all), I'd choose the simple past tense:
- How long did you use this book?
As I mentioned in my first post, however, asking "how long have you used" (present perfect simple) tends to be more suggestive of a series of individual and/or intermittent usages. One way to interpret "I have used this book for (an amount of time)" is this way, for example:
- I used this book last Tuesday; I used this book last Thursday; I used the book yesterday; I used it again this morning.
In other words, a series of individual usages before or up to now:
last Tuesday = usage #1 last Thursday = usage #2 yesterday = usage #3 this morning (today) = usage #4
Because the present perfect refers to time up to now, there is a suggestion that such a series of individual usages will continue in the future. However, the present perfect does not actually refer to the future at all. It refers only to time before and up to the present. . _________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." ~ Abraham Lincoln |
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#12 (permalink) Thu Nov 20, 2008 5:00 am have used or have been using |
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>> How long did you use this book? I am totally agree with you Amy.
Thanks for explanation. Paresh |
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| Usage of 'want that' (I want that you should do it quickly.) | "is specified" and "has specified" |