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Thu May 12, 2005 17:33 pm Wantsought |
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The answers; 1.A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being searched by the police.
2. A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being wanted by the police. The whole sentence should be re-written. The framing of the question itself is wrong. Why should it be in the present continuous passive?
Let us look at these examples: He is searched by the police. ( physical search?) He is being searched by the police.( is it a continuous process?) He is sought by the police. (Has he become invisible? He is being sought by the police. (Is it a seeking that is going on?)( The police is seeking him.) I want a book.(the book) I am wanting a book.* A book is wanted by me.? A book is being wanted by me.* • Sentences with this mark are incorrect. • ? Is it advisable to use the passive? I won’t. “A dangerous criminal, who was seen…” • Which one should we use-the definite or the indefinite article? The correct forms may be: 1.The police are (is) searching for the dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant. (better ‘are’)
2.The police want the dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant.
Want: usually material objects; want advice; wanted man- the police are in search of him, to arrest him
sought: to seek : try to find something, usually not a material object.
Wanted criminal: a criminal at large
Normally these are written in active to make them intelligible.
Active and passive forms are not just used for grammar exercise. Either is chosen for emphasis and clarity of expression. |
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Narayanan Krishnaswamy You can meet me at english-test.net
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Fri May 13, 2005 11:50 am Difference between search and seek |
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aren't you familiar with "seek and destroy" phrase?? I don't think it means "looking for sth" that "has become invisible" _________________ obsequium amicos, veritas odium parit |
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Fri May 13, 2005 17:44 pm Seek |
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When the police want some person, they go after him, search for him and arrest him. They don't seek for him. narayanan. |
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Sun May 15, 2005 18:44 pm Search/sought/seek |
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Hi Bruno,
I'm afraid that Narayanan has made what is a perfectly straightforward question into a total confusion and in addition has given some wrong information. Perhaps as the author of this and the other 306 tests on the site, I should explain. Your answer wanted is I am afraid not acceptable here because we need a past participle after is being and the verb want is not usually used in the continuous form. You could obviously say wanted by the police but then it wouldn't fit with the rest of the verb. The answer you need is sought, which is the past participle of the verb seek and is often used to mean look for in the active voice with abstract nouns like truth or information. In the passive continuous form (is being sought) it is very often used in official reports or news bulletins when referring to the police when they ARE (always PLURAL) looking for a suspect or potential criminal. Finally we come to the verb search, which very often means look for and is also used with the preposition for as in: I've misplaced my papers and I've been searching for them all over the house. It can also be used with a direct object again with reference to the police as in: The police searched everyone to make sure they were not carrying any guns - in other words they physically felt each part of their clothing to see if there were any guns. Obviously searched is wrong here because in my sentence I have said 'was last seen ..' and therefore if he is not there, he cannot be searched!
I am sorry you were given incorrect information. Clearly anybody can write comments on all our forums but when this information is incorrect, I have to comment. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Womens' Day |
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Alan Co-founder

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Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:16 am Difference between search and seek |
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| the problem is that when I write 'sought' I get the infromation that it is an error... Is everything OK with this question? |
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:40 am Difference between search and seek |
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Hi, Alan As you have said, we cannot use "wanted" here, though this choice appears among the correct answers... _________________ Alex
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Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:06 am Sought vs. wanted |
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Hi lost_soul,
Please take a look at answer again and read it carefully: You have found the error but your entry is incorrect. _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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Torsten Site Admin

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Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:56 am Difference between search and seek |
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"<Police> seek <Criminal>" is ok.
"<Police> search <An Area> for <Criminal>" is also ok.
But when you put "criminal" in the place of "An Area", it would mean the police has already taken hold of the criminal and is examining his body for something, e.g. a weapon, a driver license that identifies him, etc. |
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Mon Sep 25, 2006 6:02 am Difference between search and seek |
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<n. Search Executor> search [<n. Area Examined>] [for <n. Target of Pursuit>]
In fact this is called a semantic frame of "v. search" in computational linguistics. "Search Executor", "Area Examined", "Target of Pursuit" are the three "semantic roles" of the verb "search". Existence of the semantic roles of a particular verb are universal to all natural languages, but they may appear as different syntactic components ("syntactic realizations"). In English, "Search Executor" is realized as the subject; "Area Examined" is realized as an optional object; "Target of Pursuit" is realized as a "for" prepositional phrase (PP).
| bootedcat wrote: | "<Police> seek <Criminal>" is ok.
"<Police> search <An Area> for <Criminal>" is also ok.
But when you put "criminal" in the place of "An Area", it would mean the police has already taken hold of the criminal and is examining his body for something, e.g. a weapon, a driver license that identifies him, etc. |
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bootedcat I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:04 am Sought vs. wanted |
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| Torsten wrote: | Hi lost_soul,
Please take a look at answer again and read it carefully: You have found the error but your entry is incorrect. |
Hi, Torsten Please, have a look at this:
| Quote: | correct sentence: A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being sought,wanted by the police.
Correct entry: sought,wanted The error was: (d) searched
You have found the error but your entry is incorrect. your sentence: A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being sought by the police.
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I guess its some kind of mistake because "wanted" is still a correct option here _________________ Alex
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Wed Apr 04, 2007 13:05 pm Difference between search and seek |
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| Quote: | correct sentence: A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being sought,wanted by the police.
Correct entry: sought,wanted The error was: (d) searched
You have found the error but your entry is incorrect. your sentence: A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being sought by the police.
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At this point, this test question will only accept "sought,wanted" as a correct answer. If a test taker enters the correct answer (sought), the software marks this correct answer as wrong! (See above) In other words, it is not possible to get this question right because the software has the wrong answer!
The only correct option is sought.
The word 'wanted' is wrong here!! _________________ Amy
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Yankee I'm a Communicator ;-)

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Wed Apr 11, 2007 21:43 pm Difference between 'search' and 'seek' |
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Dear Amy, You are absolutely correct. I made all essential changes in the test. Many thanks. Slava |
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Slava Programmer and Co-founder

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Wed Apr 11, 2007 21:52 pm Difference between 'search' and 'seek' |
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| Quote: | correct sentence: A dangerous criminal who was last seen having a drink in a small restaurant is being sought by the police.
Correct entry: sought The error was: (d) searched
You have found the error and your entry is correct.
| Outstanding, Slava!  _________________ Amy
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