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Torsten Learning Coach

Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 14519 Location: EU
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#3 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:04 am It is time vs. It's about time? |
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which one is correct ----- 1:until you remain idle,you will make no progress. 2:so long as you remain idle,you will make no progress. |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#4 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 15:22 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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It’s ( high /about ) time: * When we say : - It’s high / about time for us to revise = It is the right time to revise ( it is time for somebody to do something) - It’s high /about time the government did something about corruption =In fact we are complaining about something that it should have been done earlier ( it is time someone did something)
*It’s about /high time the government took measurements to stop tax evasion *It’s high /about time the government did something to eradicate the underground economy in our country *It’s about / high time speculators of all sorts were jailed *It’s high/about time public authorities made anti-smuggling laws more stringent I hopr this will help you :) |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#5 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 15:34 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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I think that hte second sentence is correct ( so long as you remain idle you will make no progress) because Iknow that the link words ( providing that , provided that , as long as and so long as) introduce condition. They mean the same as: but only if , if , only if Example : Provided / providing that you work hard , you will get good marks = You will get good marks provided /providing that you work hard =You will get good marks only if you work hard = If you work hard you will get good marks = You will get good marks as long as/so long as you work hard = As long as/ so long as you work hard you will get god marks = You will get good marks but only if you work hard Correct me if am wrong :wink: |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#6 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 16:16 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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thanks for your good comments Sarah ... i like conditional sentences.. it fascinates me alot.. as long as grammar is concern...it's bit hard/confusing.. here are some sentences..hope u give me some helping hand .
1: i'm going to karachi because i may consult physician 2: im going to karachi in order that i may consult physician. second one - :since'' and for'' 1: i have not seen you long since . 2:i have not seen you for a long time. 3:it is long since i saw you Enjoying and Keeping !: i hope you are keeping good health. 2: i hope you are enjoying good health |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#7 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 16:23 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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I think that we say : * I am going to Karachi in order to consult a physician * I have not seen you for a long time * I hope you are keeping good health ( we can't say enjoying cause no body don't enjoy having a good health if you see what I mean) see you |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#8 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 16:40 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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sarah .... Only can be placed after if and indicates hope..a wish or regret occording to the tense used with it .. for example: 1: here is your sentence 1:: You will get good marks but only if you work hard. now go through second one 2: you will get good marks but if only you work hard . |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#9 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 16:59 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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only if is wrong ....
for example 1: if only he didn't smoke = we wish he didn't smoke OR we are sorry he smokes .
is it possible to say? = only if he didn't smoke . |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#10 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 20:08 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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Good evening When I said "only if " I said that it expresses condition and I know that this is correct because a freind of mine gave me a book where I found it. "if only " expresses the wish I think that the 2 caces are correct and it depande on what we want to express |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#11 (permalink) Sun Dec 21, 2008 20:12 pm It is time vs. It's about time? |
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And the sentence" only if he didn't smoke" is wrong cause in this case we can't express condition we can only express a hope or a wish Regards |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#12 (permalink) Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:55 am It is time vs. It's about time? |
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GM sarah . i found a site related to ''ONLY IF'' conditionals... The team will win only if Yankl scores. Clearly, this suggests that "when the team wins, Yankl scores," and "when Yankl does not score, the team does not win. As a result, we can say that "The team will win only if Yankl scores. all the best . |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#13 (permalink) Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:29 am It is time vs. It's about time? |
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Hi That's exactly what I was telling you : You will get good marks only if you work hard This means that you are going (in the future)to get good marks but in a condition which is you have to work hard ;that also means when you don't work hard you will not get good marks |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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#14 (permalink) Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:43 am It is time vs. It's about time? |
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hi .. i completely understod..i havn't gone through such stuffs be4...therefore such confusing circumstances were evailed.anyhow one of my friends aften utilizeses such sentences.. As a Speaker i Want to Specify The Specific Specification of given issue. can we use .. (specify -transitive verb)(specific ,adjective )(specification,noun ) all forms in one sentence ......................what do u say. |
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M.Ramzan I'm new here and I like it ;-)

Joined: 20 Dec 2008 Posts: 31 Location: Pakistan
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#15 (permalink) Mon Dec 22, 2008 9:08 am It is time vs. It's about time? |
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| Sorry pal I really don't know but I prafer to use simple words and simple phrases .You can ask Torsten he will be able to answer you ( you can send him a privet messege too,and when you find the answer just let me know) |
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Sarah113 You can meet me at english-test.net

Joined: 22 Nov 2008 Posts: 84 Location: Algeria
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