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Kal6 New Member
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#3 (permalink) Thu Jan 01, 2009 20:11 pm Humanity Photos |
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all the world must work closely together to stop this butchery in Gaza. where are the democracy pretenders from that terrorism ? or they want to called it a self defense. a message for all the humans Who still have awake conscience to help those innocent people from Israeli brutal attack
thank you I hope there are an ears and eyes read and listen carefully.
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Nour25 You can meet me at english-test.net

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#4 (permalink) Thu Jan 01, 2009 20:14 pm Humanity Photos |
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all the world must work closely together to stop this butchery in Gaza. where are the democracy pretenders from that terrorism ? or they want to called it a self defense. a message for all the humans Who still have awake conscience to help those innocent people from Israeli brutal attack
thank you I hope there are an ears and eyes read and listen carefully.
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Nour25 You can meet me at english-test.net

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#5 (permalink) Fri Jan 02, 2009 2:35 am Humanity Photos |
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Where are the photos of the deaths from the 300 rockets that Hamas shot into Israel after the cease fire has ended -- or the 3,000 they've shot into Israel over the past year?
Whenever Israel defends itself, the Arabs act as if nothing prompted the retaliation. This is both a mental disorder and a propaganda tool.
The fact that they stage child abuse like this shows how sick they are:
And they also continue to persecute and kill Christians on their own territory.
Another interesting thing is that, although Arabic governments have killed more Palestinians than Israel has, the Palestinians never complain about this in the media. The fact that they are killed seems to matter less than who kills them. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Fri Jan 02, 2009 16:05 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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hi jamie excuse me, to tell you don't know any thing at all. you just watching the american media which shows half of the truth,I watched it and I saw what they show you. I don't hate america and I don't hate Israel but the truth is truth. human being is more important than any thing, everybody deserve to live in peace. eating their meals in a peace, not expecting any one to breaking their house and arresting them without reasons. if we want to look for the basic who is the original owners for that place, don't tell me the Israel people because that is a big mistake and then I will ask you to go back to the history books. the israel occupation still there about over a 60 years. I'm not an emotional person I used to think in a very rational way. whatever their reasons are, they didn't have the right to occupy the palestinians earth.
again and again I say I don't hate israel to say that, but I said what I saw it is true. At the end it is an opinion, and maybe didn't change any thing. hope you get my point. many thank for you. Nour |
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Nour25 You can meet me at english-test.net

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#7 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:48 am Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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Nour, you're giving me a typical Arab response to my comments, which is to accuse me of consuming only American media, which is a bunch of nonsense. Please explain to me why that "American" TV report I posted was in Arabic. And explain to me why such small children are trained in the bloodlust of jihadist ideology. Even if that report were only "half the truth", it would be enough.
Besides, the Palestinians' practice of creating "Hollywood productions" for propaganda use in the Western media has been well documented. They shoot into empty buildings, carry unhurt people on stretchers, claim the ventilator holes in ambulances are Israeli rocket damage, and all kinds of preposterous things. Since you come from a country where the media are censored, and I do not, I think you are in no position to talk.
The Jews inhabited the land that is now Israel before the Arabs ever arrived. So did the Christians. The Muslims have no right to force non-Muslims to live under a dhimmi or to kill them if they don't convert, but they have always believed they have the right to do so, and that is how they established dominance in the Middle East. In his time, Mohammed himself sent letters to Jewish and Christian rulers telling them that if they convert to Islam "you will be safe." "Hello! Convert to my religion and I won't kill you."
Hamas were the aggressors in this, shooting more than 300 rockets on Israel starting right after the end of the ceasefire. The people on the West Bank didn't attack Israel, and so they are not under retaliatory attack. Hamas's intention, as has been the intention of Muslims from the beginning, is to subjugate or kill Jews and other non-Muslims. This has been going on for centuries, and it didn't start with the founding of the state of Israel. Hamas also plants civilians in their own military targets, so that they can use the deaths for propaganda purposes. Do you think I read that in the American media? No! I read it first in an Egyptian paper. The report featured two Palestinian fighters explaining how they do it.
The surrounding Arab governments are also to blame for this. Normal countries integrate their refugees into the society at large, but the Arabic countries discriminate against the Palestinians and keep them confined to camps. They won't let Palestinian doctors, chemists or other professionals practice outside the camps. They let the people rot there for decades instead of letting them become part of the general society, as civilized countries do. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#8 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:17 am Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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Israel is a valid state. It was Israel and Judah in biblical times and it was returned 60 years ago to the original inhabitants. It was Israel and Judah thousands of years before Islam existed. Some Arabs hate the idea of an Israeli state and continue to attack Israel.
Israel has a right to retaliate against Palestinian and other terrorists who can't stand the fact that the Promised Land is again in the hands of those to whom it was originally given.
What's all this whining about? Israel retaliates, which it has a right to do. If anti-Israeli agents would LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE, they wouldn't need to fight back.
cause and effect...
If you punch me, I have a right to defend myself and hurt you. Anti-Israel jihadists attack Israel, and Israel has a RIGHT to rock their world. F that, they deserve to have their asses kicked. You go, Israel. Punish those who don't think you have a right to survive. The haters need to just swallow their insane bigotry/zealotry and stop attacking Israel.
That land is the ancient land of Israel, given to them by the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Jacob = Israel). Those who disagree with that historical fact need to move on and get over it. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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#9 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:21 am Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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It's the same crap in Iraq:
-- We remove a brutal dictator who persecuted two-thirds of his countrymen (Shi'a and Kurds). -- Iraq has its first truly free elections in some 40 years -- Saddam's old fans and terrorists from other states attack this new democratic Iraq. -- The US is blamed for trying to do a good deed.
The insurgents/terrorists go into mosques and people's homes, knowing that we do not knowingly attack religious places or innocent civilians. That is a dirty, honorless tactic, something only a POS (piece of sh*t) nutjob, not worthy of the ability to exist.. not worthy of a mother's love, nor the right to continue breathing -- these people are dirt, damn them -- would do.And yes, so our guys occasionally miss their target and hit civilians. Well hey, the terrorists/insurgents TRY to kill innocent people.
The logic is insurmountable: We are doing our best to leave Iraq in stable shape, with stable democratic government and security forces. We're still there ONLY BECAUSE (!!!!) these a-holes won't stop trying to F things up. Maybe we should spray Valium over the country to settle down the opponents of democracy in hopes that in using their brains they'll see the light...
And while I'd love to see Iraqis choose free enterprise, the most important thing is that the Iraqi people have the right to choose their leaders. Totalitarianism sucks. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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Prezbucky I'm a Communicator ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 12:30 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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One of the things that is the most dishonest -- watch and you'll notice it -- is that when a Palestinian terrorist leader finally gets killed, as he deserves to be, Palestinian propaganda will claim he was killed for whatever the last thing was that he was doing before he was blown up. The man may be guilty of organizing suicide bombings and other genocide, but if the Israelis happen to get a good shot at him as he's leaving a mosque, the Palestinians will claim he was killed for going to a mosque. If he was brushing his teeth, they'll claim he was killed for the innocent act of brushing his teeth. It's always the last thing he was doing before he was killed, not the heinous crimes he is guilty of.
These people are mentally ill, and they need something productive to do with their time. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#11 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 15:39 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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| Prezbucky wrote: |
| The insurgents/terrorists go into mosques and people's homes, knowing that we do not knowingly attack religious places or innocent civilians. That is a dirty, honorless tactic, |
And they admit it. Not to us, but to each other. Look:
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#12 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 16:12 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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hello how are you...hope you doing fine first I'm not talking in behalf of arabs I'm only saying my opinion, I got your point. but I have a simple comment about what you said(Mohammed himself sent letters to Jewish and Christian rulers telling them that if they convert to Islam "you will be safe." "Hello! Convert to my religion and I won't kill you) things is not like that. Islam is a religion of peace , there are a some of Muslims---some--some-- who have contributed to tarnish the image of Islam in the Western world but this does not mean that all Muslims are bad. As for what is happening in Palestine is a war, so there must be two parts and every part think that it's have all the right,Therefore, we are in a vicious circle.
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#13 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 16:47 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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| Nour25 wrote: |
| Islam is a religion of peace , |
Which was spread by violence and erupts into violence daily. And you will seldom hear Muslims condemning the violence of their co-religionists in public. If they do express any negative opinion on it, it's always followed by the word "but", and then they launch into an explanation that supports the violence they've just condemned.
| Nour25 wrote: |
| there are a some of Muslims---some--some-- who have contributed to tarnish the image of Islam in the Western world |
These included Mohammed himself, who ordered his men into wars to subjugate or force conversion on non-Muslims, even in cases where the non-Muslims did not attack. He participated in such wars himself, so he often did his share of killing for the sole reason that his neighbors were not Muslims. It's all part of the record of his life. The people who "tarnish the image of Islam" are very consciously basing their actions on Mohammed's example, as recorded in the haditha.
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| but this does not mean that all Muslims are bad. |
I deal with ordinary Muslims daily, so I don't need to be told that. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
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#14 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 17:01 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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you said Since you come from a country where the media are censored, and I do not, I think you are in no position to talk. )congratulation, your media is not censored, come on we debate here, cool your nerves. We are now an era of globalization so all your chanals in our TV like CNN,BBC,FOX NEWS and so on.
as I said before it is a war. you may think israel is right and I think the Reversed of it.
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#15 (permalink) Sat Jan 03, 2009 17:53 pm Humanity Photos (Gaza massacre) |
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Which was spread by violence and erupts into violence daily. And you will seldom hear Muslims condemning the violence of their co-religionists in public. If they do express any negative opinion on it, it's always followed by the word "but", and then they launch into an explanation that supports the violence they've just condemned.
to tarnish the image of Islam in the Western world [/quote] These included Mohammed himself, who ordered his men into wars to subjugate or force conversion on non-Muslims, even in cases where the non-Muslims did not attack. He participated in such wars himself, so he often did his share of killing for the sole reason that his neighbors were not Muslims. It's all part of the record of his life. The people who "tarnish the image of Islam" are very consciously basing their actions on Mohammed's example, as recorded in the haditha.
I deal with ordinary Muslims daily, so I don't need to be told that.[/quote]
I think you already have your black image about islam and muslims people which I'm sure it will not change. but I'm not going to be like you and saying a bad thing about your religion. since I'm sure your idea will not change I'm not going to waste my time in trying to convincing you and give a chance of express your hate of islam and mohammad because I have a lot of thing more important than talking with you. |
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