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Hi,
(not)allow doing smth:It is (not) officially permitted.
We don't allow eating in the class.
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| #3 (permalink) Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:54 am To allow to do or doing? |
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So, after allow (not use TO).
After allow (just use DOING). Right?. |
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| #4 (permalink) Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:24 am To allow to do or doing? |
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Please allow me to hold that umbrella for you.
They don't allow smoking in here, and they don't allow alcohol.
'Allow' takes a noun object; therefore, it also takes a gerund. With the indirect object, however, the infinitive is used.
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| #5 (permalink) Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:24 am To allow to do or doing? |
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| #6 (permalink) Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:22 am To allow to do or doing? |
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| I see, Thanks ! |
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| #7 (permalink) Sat Jan 24, 2009 13:29 pm To allow to do or doing? |
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One more thing i want to share you: :lol:
ALLOW = PERMIT
allow + Object + TO Inf. ( My siste allowed me to use her computer)
allow +(without an Object) V-ING ( My sister allowed using her computer)
be allowed (passive) + TO Inf. (I was allowed to use my sister's computer) :lol: |
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| #8 (permalink) Sat Jan 24, 2009 15:02 pm To allow to do or doing? |
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| allow +(without an Object) V-ING ( My sister allowed using her computer) |
This seems very odd English to me.
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| #9 (permalink) Sun Jan 25, 2009 14:14 pm To allow to do or doing? |
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allow +(without an Object) V-ING ( My sister allowed using her computer)
This seems very odd English to me. |
Maybe it's very odd to you, but whoever learns English in a school has to know this. :wink: |
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| #10 (permalink) Sun Jan 25, 2009 23:05 pm To allow to do or doing? |
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I seriously doubt that anyone 'has to' know that, Hothu. It is not used in English with personal reference (the personal pronoun 'her', etc). You will see this structure only for impersonal permission or restriction, in the passive or without personal reference:
Skateboarding is not allowed in the mall.
The management does not allow pets.
Personal reference requires the infinitive: My sister allowed me to use her computer.
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| #11 (permalink) Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:43 am To allow to do or doing? |
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| Thnx thnx thnx a lot...You really cleared my doubts about it. Thanks again :D |
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| #12 (permalink) Tue May 26, 2009 20:54 pm Allow + object |
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Ireland doesn't allow smoking in bars. (Smoking, a thing is in the past, real, or concrete.)
Ireland doesn't allow people (in order) to smoke in bars. (to smoke, (in order) to do something in the future, sometime things are unreal or abstract!!!!)
*** Smoking is a object!
*** People is a object!
So, Allow always takes an object, right? To + infinitive = object or adverb, that's it!
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| #13 (permalink) Tue May 26, 2009 21:08 pm Allow + object |
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| Laohac wrote: |
Ireland doesn't allow smoking in bars. (Smoking, a thing is in the past, real, or concrete.)
Ireland doesn't allow people (in order) to smoke in bars. (to smoke, (in order) to do something in the future, sometime things are unreal or abstract!!!!)
*** Smoking is a object!
*** People is a object!
So, Allow always takes an object, right? To + infinitive = object or adverb, that's it!
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Smoking is not an object. 'To smoke' is very much a verb where I come from.
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