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#2 (permalink) Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:25 pm Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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. 1.The ratio of errors is decreasing day by day.-- This is correct. There is a confusion in my mind "ratio" is just used for singular-- Yes: One ratio, two ratios.
3. Figaro Data is uploaded on ftp with the following file names. 4. Figaro Data are uploaded on ftp with the following file names.
in above sentence will we use "is" with "Figaro Data"?-- It depends on what 'Figaro Data' means-- is it a program or a file? Or are they many separate pieces of information?
I have a little confusion when I see 1st one part of the sentence then I assume that is right but when I notice on 2nd part of the sentence especially (file name) then I confused the should I use "is" or "are" in this sentence.-- Focus on the subject-- it is the number of the subject that determines the number of the verb.
Your prompt response would be highly appreciated (Is this right sentence?)-- The grammar is OK, but the register is wrong and it sounds rude. We are not your employees and you are not our client. We offer a voluntary service in our available free time. If you wish to pay us for answering your questions, then you can use this sentence. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:27 pm Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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Mr. Mister Micawber
Lot of thanks
yes FIGARO DATA is a program for a client.
And if i am a client of a party and I write this sentence would it be right or wrong?
"Your prompt response would be highly appreciated" or can you suggest any sentence which is alternate of this sentence |
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#4 (permalink) Tue Feb 03, 2009 13:05 pm Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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. Yes, that is OK in a strictly business setting and you the recipient of services, but still this kind of BizEnglish is being overtaken by a simpler, more personal approach: "Please let me know as soon as possible". . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Tue Feb 03, 2009 13:16 pm Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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| Mister Micawber wrote: |
. Yes, that is OK in a strictly business setting and you the recipient of services, but still this kind of BizEnglish is being overtaken by a simpler, more personal approach: "Please let me know as soon as possible". . |
Thanks for guiding me
many thanks again |
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Misskhan I'm here quite often ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:30 am Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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Dear Mr. Alan/Torsten
Please guide me because I am still confused about this sentence that which one is right.
1.Figaro Data is uploaded on ftp with the following file names. 2. Figaro Data are uploaded on ftp with the following file names. 3. Data for Figaro is uploaded on ftp with the following file names.
in above sentence will we use "is" or "are" with "Figaro Data"?--
(They are many separate pieces of information but in on folder is named "FIGARO DATA")
I have a little confusion when I see 1st one part of the sentence then I assume that 1st question is right but when I notice on 2nd part of the sentence especially (file names) then I confused that should I use "is" or "are" in this sentence. I know it is very important to "Focus on the subject" and although Mr. Mister Micawber guided me as good as he can and now I understood the use of "ratio" but many thanks for him.
But I am still confused about this question. so please guide me as soon as you can....
Thanks in advance |
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Misskhan I'm here quite often ;-)

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#7 (permalink) Mon Feb 09, 2009 7:56 am Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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I'm not Alan or TD, but my vote is for "is".
Data is.
That is how 99% (rough estimate) of those I know would say/write it, and I don't live in an Appalachian trailer park.
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#8 (permalink) Mon Feb 09, 2009 8:34 am Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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Thanks Prezbucky
It means my 1st one sentence is correct. is it?
many thanks if it is really right |
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Misskhan I'm here quite often ;-)

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#9 (permalink) Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:04 am Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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Yes, #1 is right... or at least it's accepted as being right among 99% of non-Appalachianers, and they don't have the requisite Internet access to wage an argument (though most of them would likely agree anyway).
There is an argument for "data are" and the support for these heathens can be found in the announcing of English Premier League soccer matches.. Andy Gray (Grey?) and the other dude say things like this, flying in the face of common usage:
"Liverpool are playing well" (most of us: Liverpool IS playing well) "Manchester United have brought Arsenal to their knees" (Man U HAS brought Arsenal to ITS knees)
The announcers are basing their conjugations on the individual members --the plural members of the team -- instead of the singular team.
Such is the dilemma with "data" -- we know that data is a group of multiple datums (hehe), but when data are referenced, they are referred to as a singular group of facts -- one group -- instead of a bunch of plural facts.
If you want to say "data are", go ahead... but don't be surprised if someone says, "Okay, Andy Gray."
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#10 (permalink) Tue Feb 10, 2009 6:48 am Sentence: The ratio of errors are decreasing day by day. |
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Thanks Prezbucky
Now It is quite easy to understand this type of confusing sentence.
many thanks again |
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Misskhan I'm here quite often ;-)

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