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#2 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 15:43 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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1. as - since; because: Forests come under increasing pressure as the population increases, although the whole sentence ( Forests come under increasing pressure as the population increases, as so many people use firewood for cooking.) looks extremely awkward. Second "as" ought to be replaced by "and." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/as
2. The expression as...as is used to show the comparison of quantity. twice as many as = two times more than _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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#3 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 15:58 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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| Milanya wrote: |
| 2. The expression as...as is used to show the comparison of quantity. twice as many as = two times more than |
Wouldn't you say that "three times as many as" means "two times more than"? I.e. if the rest of the world produces 100,000 robots a year, and Japan twice as many, that should be 200,000. If Japan produces two times more robots than the rest of the world, it produces 300,000. |
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#4 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 18:44 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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| Cerberus™ wrote: |
| Wouldn't you say that "three times as many as" means "two times more than"? |
No, I would not.
"three times as many as" means "three times more than" _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 21:15 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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| Milanya wrote: |
1. as - since; because: Forests come under increasing pressure as the population increases, although the whole sentence ( Forests come under increasing pressure as the population increases, as so many people use firewood for cooking.) looks extremely awkward. Second "as" ought to be replaced by "and." http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/as |
As the population increases, forests come under increasing pressure as so many people use firewood for cooking.
What do you think? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#6 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 21:24 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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| Gray wrote: |
As the population increases, forests come under increasing pressure as so many people use firewood for cooking.
What do you think? |
As the population increases, forests come under increasing pressure because so many people use firewood for cooking. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 21:28 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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Isn't that separation added by comma enough for us to stick to 'as' instead of submitting to 'because'? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#8 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 21:32 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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Regardless of the comma second "as" in this sentence does not sound natural. People do not talk like this. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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#9 (permalink) Wed Feb 11, 2009 21:45 pm As...As (Japan is in the lead, producing twice as many industrial robots as...) |
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I may be wrong but I thought 'as' is a glue here which binds the clauses -- 'As the population increases', 'forests come under increasing pressure' and 'so many people use...' more strongly than 'because' does. 'Because' seems to incorrectly shift the attention to 'firewood for cooking'. _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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