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#2 (permalink) Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:35 am 'Follow up on' versus 'follow up' |
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. I could follow up on the answers. Your second sentence needs, e.g. an adverbial: I could follow up the answers with a new set of questions. _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Sat Feb 14, 2009 18:17 pm 'Follow up on' versus 'follow up' |
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But I still have a doubt --
1) "I could follow up the answers with a new set of questions."
Why do we need an adverbial here? For example, if I substitute the verb "read" -- "I could read the answers", would I need an adverbial there too?
May be, there is some confusion.
2) "I am posting a message so that I could follow up the answers."
Do we need an adverbial in this context too? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#4 (permalink) Sat Feb 14, 2009 22:09 pm 'Follow up on' versus 'follow up' |
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| Gray wrote: |
1) "I could follow up the answers with a new set of questions."
Why do we need an adverbial here? For example, if I substitute the verb "read" -- "I could read the answers", would I need an adverbial there too?
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No, it is not at all needed with 'read'. Each verb has different complements required. It is just the phrasal verb 'to follow [something] up with [something]' that requires 'with'. There must be two things here: one thing is followed up with another thing.
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2) "I am posting a message so that I could follow up the answers."
Do we need an adverbial in this context too? |
Yes, we need an adjunct with 'with' here, placed after 'answers'. Or you could add 'on' between 'up' and 'the': 'to follow up on [something]' is a different phrasal verb, that does not require a 'with'. |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Feb 15, 2009 17:21 pm 'Follow up on' versus 'follow up' |
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| Cerberus™ wrote: |
| ...No, it is not at all needed with 'read'. Each verb has different complements required.....Yes, we need an adjunct with 'with' here, placed after 'answers'. |
If I gather all this in one place, the conclusion is --
'Follow up' is an exceptional (must be very special exception ;)) case where we can't use the verb on its own.
Is it logical? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#6 (permalink) Sun Feb 15, 2009 21:41 pm 'Follow up on' versus 'follow up' |
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Regrettably I must disagree with you again. The verb "to follow [something] up with [something]" is special only in the type of adjunct that is required: "with" is not often required with a verb.
Even so, it is not that special: take, for example, "to put up with [something/someone]", where it is also required.
Note that both "put" and "follow" may be used without both "up" and "with": then they just have different meanings.
Some general statements: - As to what complements or adjuncts are required with a specific verb, even this may differ depending on context. - Most verbs require one or more complements in most contexts, though by no means in all. When in doubt about a possible complement or adjunct, add it. Rarely will you go wrong by adding too much; but often by adding too little. Too much might look a bit stuffed or redundant, but it won't break the grammar or make the sentence unintelligible. - I cannot think of any more specific rule of thumb that applies to all verbs, most of this is context and idiom. |
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