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#2 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:28 am article usage ("the, " "a, " and "an") |
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Perhaps you could give some examples of sentences that cause you doubt? As it is, you request about articles is a bit broad. --------------------- Initialisms, i.e. non-pronouncable abbreviations, take "the" if it is part of the name when we pronounce it fully, e.g., "the IRA", from "the Irish Republican Army".
Acronyms, i.e. pronouncable (and therefore pronounced) abbreviations, never take "the", e.g., "I don't think NATO will act" even though "the" is part of the fully pronounced name.
"A/an" is possible for all abbreviations only if more than one of the thing exists, such as a Sexually Transmitted Disease. It is possible too if an abbreviation is used attributively, such as "a NATO spy", a spy sent by NATO. Then the article belongs to "spy".
Whether to use "a" or "an" depends on how the abbreviation is actually pronounced, not the full word. UK is pronounced /yoo-kay/, so "a UK law", "an STD" (/es-tee-dee/). |
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#3 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 6:46 am article usage ("the, " "a, " and "an") |
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Thank you, Cerberus. I understand how broad this subject matter is, but I'm still hoping that I can gain more knowledge on article usage. There are just times when I'm confused whether to use an article in certain words/acronyms, particularly in papers that are so technical (engineering and scientific journals at that). Based on what you said, does it mean that there can be no instance where we can use articles in pronounceable acronyms? _________________ The more we learn, the less we seem to know. |
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#4 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:17 am Article usage: "the", "a", and "an" |
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To Cerberus: You said that, in nonpronounceable abbreviations, we should take "the" if it is part of the name when we pronounce it fully. So does it mean that there can be no instance where we can take "the" if it is not part of the name?
For example: "This variable is known as distributed spatial gradient (DSG). DSG is calculated by dividing equation (1) by equation (5). DSG is known to decrease at....etc." What article (for DSG) is appropriate here (if needed)?
In addition, you wrote the following: Acronyms, i.e. pronounceable (and therefore pronounced) abbreviations, never take "the", e.g., "I don't think NATO will act" even though "the" is part of the fully pronounced name.
Is there any exception to this? I mean, is there any possibility that a "the" can be taken in pronounceable (and therefore pronounced) abbreviations? _________________ The more we learn, the less we seem to know. |
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#5 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:42 am Article usage: "the", "a", and "an" |
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Hi, Cerberus and other interested interested parties, I have another sample text in the following:
"The electron temperature of the plasma is generally lower than the threshold energies for dissociation of the feed-gas molecules. Dissociation and ionization are induced by the high energy tail of the EEDF. The EEDF for inductive and capacitive plasmas are different."
What can you say about the usage of articles here? Is the article "the" necessary before "EEDF" (initialism)? _________________ The more we learn, the less we seem to know. |
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#6 (permalink) Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:07 am Article usage: "the", "a", and "an" |
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| Harry_Ph wrote: |
To Cerberus: You said that, in nonpronounceable abbreviations, we should take "the" if it is part of the name when we pronounce it fully. So does it mean that there can be no instance where we can take "the" if it is not part of the name? |
I should think so, although I just reproduced the standard rule as I know it - perhaps I should have mentioned that I am no expert, I do it on intuition myself. Considering your examples I think this rule might be too simple to include all possibilities.
For a start, it does not include abbreviations of things there are more than one of (common nouns). E.g., it must be "the PMs of France and England conferred at Westminster".
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For example: "This variable is known as distributed spatial gradient (DSG). DSG is calculated by dividing equation (1) by equation (5). DSG is known to decrease at....etc." What article (for DSG) is appropriate here (if needed)? |
I would add "the" here, although I am not positive. Either way, I think technical writing may be somewhat different from ordinary writing. Sometimes brevity is preferred over a fully conventional style. Especially in the second and third sentences the lack of article makes the style seem slightly 'shorter' than normal, as in a summary or a newspaper, where space may be scarce. I'd say it is still acceptable, though. By the way, this is not a proper noun (as opposed to common), so I do not think the standard rules I mentioned apply here.
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In addition, you wrote the following: Acronyms, i.e. pronounceable (and therefore pronounced) abbreviations, never take "the", e.g., "I don't think NATO will act" even though "the" is part of the fully pronounced name.
Is there any exception to this? I mean, is there any possibility that a "the" can be taken in pronounceable (and therefore pronounced) abbreviations? |
I don't know, but I cannot think of any, so I should think this rule is quite strict. Although it doesn't apply to common nouns either. |
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#7 (permalink) Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:26 am Article usage: "the", "a", and "an" |
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| Harry_Ph wrote: |
Hi, Cerberus and other interested interested parties, I have another sample text in the following:
"The electron temperature of the plasma is generally lower than the threshold energies for dissociation of the feed-gas molecules. Dissociation and ionization are induced by the high energy tail of the EEDF. The EEDF for inductive and capacitive plasmas are different."
What can you say about the usage of articles here? Is the article "the" necessary before "EEDF" (initialism)? |
Yes, I would use "the" here. I looked up the meaning of EEDF to find out: I needed to know whether it is a proper noun or not first. With abbreviations that are common nouns, I'd say articles are used as normal, i.e. the same way as with regular common nouns (that are no abbreviations). However, again: style in scientific papers may in some situations be shorter than normal; although using normal style is always fine, even there. |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:01 am Article usage: "the", "a", and "an" |
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Thank you, Cerberus. Actually, I have quite a number of references about article usage, and what you said are also related to the information I found in these references. I understand how complex this issue is, particularly in scientific papers. Once again, thank you, and I hope that we will have more discussions on other possible subjects/issues. God bless you. :) _________________ The more we learn, the less we seem to know. |
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