Compoun Noun: I am always confused to a CN by its '-ed' and '-ing' form

[Anna.ha]

You see what I mean. Suppose I want to say that I'll give some one a document for teaching, I would say: I'll give you some teaching documents. This example is not typical since teach is just a verb, so we have to make it up as a gerund. It's find.

However, e.g for the verb compare in the following context, I am so confused.

1- I'll give you some comparing documents. - OR -

2- I'll give you some comparison documents.

For me both are ok. I feel they should be different as people always say #1 instead of #2, but I am not qualified to distinguish the two.

Could anyone tell me something about it, please? I'd be grateful.

Thanks in advance

[Cerberus™]

In "comparing documents", the documents are the things that do the comparing. Here, the relation between A. documents and B. compare is:
A documents = "the things that do the comparing"
B comparing = "the action that is done by the documents".

In "comparison documents", the relation is more general. It means the same as "documents of comparison". You don't know exactly what kind of relation there is between both words, but there is some relation. It may be the same relation as in "comparing documents", it may be of another kind. The word "of" is not very specific in this case.

[Cerberus™]

PS Be sure that you do not confuse the first one with other constructions, like:

"I am comparing documents."
"I don't like comparing documents."
"I ordered his comparing documents."
"People comparing documents do not like being disturbed."

[Anna.ha]

Valued reply, Cerberous. I thank you very much.

Let me give you my understandings about your constructions, you would know if I confuse them with the first of mine.

I am comparing documents - it definitely means the action that I compare documents is still in progress and is not completed. I am doing it. - correct?

I don't like comparing documents - express the idea of your likes, dislikes. If you are British, you should notice the different of "to like to do" and "to like to doing". They are slightly different, the latter is more about your habit. - correct

I ordered his comparing documents - I ordered documents that have been compared or being compared by him - correct?

People comparing documents do not like being disturbed - People whose work is comparing documents do not like being disturbed. Work might be their job or what they frequently do - correct?

[Anna.ha]

Hey cerberous. I wonder if the documents can do the comparing work in fact as you explained above? Since documents are objects they are never able to do any work. So could you shed some more light on, please ?

[Cerberus™]

All correct! Except that the third one could also be taken differently, which was what I intended. But it was a bit hard to make that construction with "to compare" so I'll try again:

"I was not informed of your comparing documents. Why will Alexander not do it?"
Could you paraphrase the first sentence? The second sentence is for context only, to force you into a specific interpretation of the first.
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About the documents doing the comparing: they must be the ones that do the comparing, or that first sentence of yours would have been wrong. But it was right. I bet you interpreted it the same way I did.

Any word may have a basic sense but also a transferred sense: the word gets a meaning that is a bit different from the first. In a good dictionary, almost every word has several meanings, many of which are transferred. Most of the time, we are not even aware when we use a word in a slightly transferred sense.

Consider the word "writing". It is supposed to mean "the action of writing". But we also use it as "something that was written, a text".

How would you paraphrase "I'll give you the comparing document" if you had to use the form "compares"?

(I am going to bed now so I'll be unable to respond again until later.)

[Anna.ha]

Let me try.

I have no idea of the existence of the documents/I am not aware of the documents that were being compared by you. - You were the owner of the action of "comparing".

If it were "I was not informed of comparing documents of yours", I do believe it has a different meaning that the documents were or were not being compared by you, I did not care about the owner.

If it were "I was not informed of your compared documents", I would understand that the documents had already been compared by you, of which I was not aware.

Please correct me

[Cerberus™]

About "I was not informed of your comparing documents. Why did Alexander not do it?"

[Anna.ha]

So, Cerberous, could you paraphase the following sentences for me, so that I could understand more about their uses.

1- I'll give you the comparing documents.
2- I'll give you the compared documents.

Does #1 means to stress that something, say, look and feel or data...etc in the documents is being compared and "compare work" is in progress. -CORRECT?

While, does #2 means to stress that something, say, look and feel or data...etc in the documents is compared and "compare work" has been compeleted. -CORRECT?

[Anna.ha]

I've never seen people say anywhere that "I'll give you the taught documents" though comparing to "compare" in the same context, it should make sense.

[Anna.ha]

Anyway, I am always struggling with "-ed" and gerund under the context of an adjective, gerund and noun under the context of a noun. Please could anyone help me?

1- comparing documents vs. comparison documents
2- compared documents vs. comparing documents

[Cerberus™]

1- I'll give you the comparing documents.

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[Anna.ha]

I've read your posts Cerberous, times and times again trying to get the idea. :-. Thank you very much Cerberous. Do help me if something still unclear.