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Torsten Learning Coach

Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 10060 Location: EU
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#3 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 20:57 pm Private message |
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I see. Thank you. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)

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#4 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 21:11 pm Private message |
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| Milanya wrote: |
| I have a message sitting in my Outbox since yesterday. |
Please inform me when it goes to Sentbox. (kidding)
But the question is when talking about the future can we use 'goes'? If yes, why? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#5 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 21:15 pm Private message |
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| Milanya wrote: |
| How long does it usually take for a message to move from an Outbox to a Sentbox? |
Coming back to the context, can't we say 'the outbox' and 'the sentbox' as we are referring to the exiting, particular and known concepts here? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#6 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 21:44 pm Deleting sent messages |
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| Torsten wrote: |
| It moves to the Sentbox when the addressee opens it. |
Hi Torston..
It is a good news that you have just disclosed to us..
As you are aware, in 'intranet' environment any of the sent messages can be deleted by the sender before the addressee opens it.
Is the same possible here in our forum with our private messages..?
Waiting your technical reply/explanation.
... _________________ Sahid59
Better tomorrow with better English |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 21:57 pm Private message |
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| Gray wrote: |
Coming back to the context, can't we say 'the outbox' and 'the sentbox' as we are referring to the existing, particular and known concepts here? |
We can use the if a question is about one box in particular, but I have asked a general question about any Outbox and Sentbox. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 22:14 pm Private message |
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| Milanya wrote: |
| Gray wrote: |
Coming back to the context, can't we say 'the outbox' and 'the sentbox' as we are referring to the existing, particular and known concepts here? |
We can use the if a question is about one box in particular, but I have asked a general question about any Outbox and Sentbox. |
No, that question was specific to the english-test.net outbox and sentbox. _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#9 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 22:39 pm Private message |
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Have it your way. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Wed Feb 18, 2009 23:14 pm Private message |
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| Milanya wrote: |
| Have it your way. |
| Torsten wrote: |
| It moves to the Sentbox when the addressee opens it. |
_________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 972 Location: Proxima Centauri
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#11 (permalink) Thu Feb 19, 2009 5:47 am Private message |
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Hello Gray,
This is yet another very gray area. 
You can think in specific terms of the Outbox and the Sentbox which are connected with your particular account, or with some other specific account.
Someone else might think in terms of any one of the many Outboxes and Sentboxes to be found here, in which case that person would choose to use "a" rather than "the".
Of course, it might be theoretically possible to have one gigantic english-test.net Outbox and one gigantic english-test.net Sentbox for all "private" messages. However, it would be pretty unethical to offer a "private message" system if Member X's private message to Member Y were randomly accessible to any other member who happened to feel like being nosy. After all, then the private messages here wouldn't be private, would they?
_________________ "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." — Abraham Lincoln |
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Esl_Expert I'm here quite often ;-)
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#12 (permalink) Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:03 am Private message |
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| Esl_Expert wrote: |
| Of course, it might be theoretically possible to have one gigantic english-test.net Outbox and one gigantic english-test.net Sentbox for all "private" messages. However, it would be pretty unethical to offer a "private message" system if Member X's private message to Member Y were randomly accessible to any other member who happened to feel like being nosy. After all, then the private messages here wouldn't be private, would they? |
Using 'the' doesn't make it gigantic , but it does make the reference definite - the reference to the concept..not to the particular instance of it. That is the reason Torsten, too, used 'the'. _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#13 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:13 am Private message |
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Blah we have to wait 5 days to end PM? someone should change thisss  |
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Mongolic New Member
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#14 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:14 am Private message |
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| oh my bad I miss read it. 5 posts so never mind! |
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Mongolic New Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Posts: 2
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#15 (permalink) Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:34 pm Private message - 5 posts so never mind! |
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A related question:
I can understand why there's a policy that PM's can't be sent until one has made at least five posts here. But why does that policy also apply to being able to read one's own PM's? I just received my first PM here, and have no way to see it. Of course, presumably, I would then want to reply to it, and then.... Hrm, perhaps I just answered my own question!
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