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When do we use "nor" and when "or"? | "Heart Open" or "Open Heart"
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Please amend #1 (permalink) Fri Feb 20, 2009 23:10 pm   Please amend
 

Hi,

Can anyone please amend this sentence:

Many people often complain about not getting what they want. Instead, they should be happy for not getting what they often deserve.

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Please amend #2 (permalink) Fri Feb 20, 2009 23:26 pm   Please amend
 

Why did you decide that there was something wrong with this sentence?

I would have said: Many people often complain about not getting what they want. Instead, they should be happy that they are not getting what they often deserve., but I am not sure that it makes the sentence any better.
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Please amend #3 (permalink) Fri Feb 20, 2009 23:40 pm   Please amend
 

Hi Milanya,

Thanks a lot for your swift response. I picked this phrase up from a German comedian and thought it might an idea to translate it into English...
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Please amend #4 (permalink) Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:03 am   Please amend
 

Torsten wrote:
Hi Milanya,

Thanks a lot for your swift response. I picked this phrase up from a German comedian and thought it might be a good idea to translate it into English...

I like the idea. There are a few ways to rephrase the sentence but I doubt that it will make it any better. It is goog enough as it is.
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Please amend #5 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:41 am   Please amend
 

Hi Dear Torsten,
I think it's better to use "continually" before "getting" in Milanya's sentence,don't you?OR
Is it also right to use "subjunctive"?
They should be happy that they not be getting .....
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Please amend #6 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:59 am   Please amend
 

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Hi Morteza,

I'm afraid the subjunctive isn't needed here.

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Please amend #7 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 18:33 pm   Please amend
 

I'd even say the subjunctive would not be according to idiom. In such cases the subjunctive is supposed to be used (mainly in America) after a verb like "command" or "insist" that has potential influence on whether the verb in the subordinate clause will happen or not. Verbs such as in "to be happy (that)" or "to hope (that)" do not exert any influence on the outcome and should not be followed by a subjunctive (nor by "should").
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Please amend #8 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:42 am   Please amend
 

Hi,
I thank you,Alan and Cerberus,for your kind explanation.
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