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#2 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 22:35 pm I object to... |
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I object to your having a girlfriend.
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#3 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 22:41 pm I object to... |
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As far as I know "I object to you+verb+ing" is also possible. If not, provide any explanation, please.
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#4 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 22:56 pm I object to... |
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When a gerund is preceded by a noun or pronoun, the noun or pronoun must be in the possessive case. Accordingly, it is correct to say I can understand his wanting to go, but incorrect to say I can understand him wanting to go. Harbrage College Handbook _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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#5 (permalink) Sun Feb 22, 2009 23:20 pm I object to... |
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I'm a little bit puzzled. What about this sentence "I object to you playing any other court sim game"? which you can find here watch this
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#6 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:57 am I object to... |
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Maryann, there have been hot disputes about the construction you are defending, it is often called "fused participle".
In general, I think most grammarians approve of it now, though not all; I think the most traditional ones will not approve. Using it with a pronoun is a bit different: more people disapprove of it then, they would have you use the possessive pronoun. Still, I should say that "I saw him coming" and such are often used by native speakers, and I think most foreign students will not be corrected. Although I am not entirely sure about this. |
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#7 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:29 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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Hello Maryann,
In addition to the grammar information that you might find on this site, the following website is a very good source of information for grammar rules that you should know for academic or formal written English: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/index.htm
If you visit the link below, scroll down to "Using Possessives with Gerunds". The write-up about when to use possessives with gerunds is quite good. http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/GRAMMAR/gerunds.htm As you will see in that link, there are also situations in which a possessive noun/pronoun should not automatically be used simply because it is followed by the -ing form of a verb. An old Beatles song provides an interesting example of just such a situation: - I saw her standing there. "Her" is not a possessive adjective in that sentence. It is the object form of the pronoun "she". These sentences would also be correct: - I saw him standing there. - I saw Maryann standing there.
With respect to the sentence you posted, if formally correct (traditional) grammar rules had been applied, then the word "your" rather than "you" would have been used. In informal everyday English, however, it is not at all unusual for people to use an object pronoun rather than a possessive adjective in such a sentence.
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#8 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:17 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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Hi Serzige,
With reference to your sentences:
"I object to you having a girlfriend" or "I object you to having a girlfriend".
Let's put aside the heavy grammar talk for a minute - the second one doesn't really make sense because the verb 'object' needs the preposition 'to' if it's going to take an object. I think others have gone down a different track in their responses. Am I right?
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#9 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:22 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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Many thanks, Esl Expert (don't know your real name) for those helpful links you've shared with us. The information, given there, made it clear for me the usage of Possessives with Gerunds and its explanation.
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#10 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:09 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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hey, i'd like to ask a question here by the way. What do people mean by saying:
1- It's subject to do something. 2- It's object to do something.
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#11 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:18 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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Here is Alan's explanation as to the meaning of subject and object Follow here
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#12 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:50 am I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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| Anna.ha wrote: |
hey, i'd like to ask a question here by the way. What do people mean by saying:
1- It's subject to do something. 2- It's object to do something.
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I do not quite understand what you mean here, those sentences do not make sense to me. |
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#13 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 13:48 pm I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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Sorry to have made confusion. What I meant was I wanted to ask about "subject" and "object" in the following context.
- Technological innovation, as discussed above, is subject to the law of diminishing returns.
- In contrast, something is object to us when we can take a perspective on it...
And what is the meaning of either of the following contructions
1- to be subject to gerund/ing form 2- to be object to gerund/ing form
Is this cleared up? Please help Cerberous.
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#14 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 16:42 pm I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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| Alan wrote: |
Hi Serzige,
With reference to your sentences:
"I object to you having a girlfriend" or "I object you to having a girlfriend".
Let's put aside the heavy grammar talk for a minute - the second one doesn't really make sense because the verb 'object' needs the preposition 'to' if it's going to take an object. I think others have gone down a different track in their responses. Am I right?
Alan |
Thanks Alan...you're right they got off track. Your explanation was quite clear... _________________ Sergio M.
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#15 (permalink) Mon Feb 23, 2009 17:02 pm I object to you having a girlfriend. vs I object you to having a girlfriend. |
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I have answered about "subject" in this thread: http://www.english-test.net/forum/ftopic35444.html My comments in bold:
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- Technological innovation, as discussed above, is subject to the law of diminishing returns. [explained in the other thread]
- In contrast, something is object to us when we can take a perspective on it... ["object" here means: capable of being acted upon, capable of being perceived with the senses. As opposed to subject, being the source of the acting or perceiving. Compare this the the use of the same words in grammar. As you see, both "object" and "subject" may be used in different meanings.]
1- to be subject to gerund/ing form [explained in the other thread] 2- to be object to gerund/ing form [not a fixed or clear expression, may be comparable to what I said a few lines earlier about "object", may depend on context]
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