End up (doing something) vs End up with

[Infin1ty]

Hello everyone,:)

The original sentence:

Why does it always have to be that no matter the topic is, it ends up with discussing political issues.

I'd like to know: Could the sentence express the same meaning as it was if I omitted the word 'with' by saying: Why does it always have to be that no matter the topic is, it ends up discussing political issues.

To me, 'end up doing sth' sounds a bit like 'stop doing sth'. Please correct me if Iam wrong. Thanks in advance.
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[Alan]

Hi Infinity,

I think I'd like to change that sentence to give it a slightly better balance:

Why does it always have to be that no matter what the topic is, it ends up with everyone/people/us discussing political issues.

With those additions I feel the word 'with' has something to attach itself to.

Alan
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[Infin1ty]

Thanks alot, Alan.
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[Maryann]

As for me I'd changed "always have to be" into "happens" and "what the topic is" into "whatever the topic is". So, the sentence would be like this:

"Why does it always happens that whatever the topic is, it ends up with everyone discussing political issues. "

Don't you think it sounds better?

Maryann

[Infin1ty]

Thank you for your suggestion, Maryann. I don't know whether 'always happens' equals 'always have to be' in meaning for my English is poor, but 'whatever' sounds good. It was used in the original sentence and I missed typing it. 8)

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[Maryann]

Well, Weiqiang, I don't really think they are equal, but I hope the word "happens" may successfully change "have to be". And what do you think about the variant with "should" usage, e.g. Why should it always be (happen) that whatever the topic is it ends up with everyone discussing political issues.

Maryann

[Infin1ty]

Dear Maryann, both of your sentence sound fine to/by/with(confused :shock: ) me.
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[Maryann]

Yes, Steven, usage of "does" and "happens" is incorrect, it was my misspelling. Sorry, Weiqiang!
It shoud be "Why does it happen" then, right? And I didn't try to convince anybody that my variants were absolutely better than others. I just shared my opinion as to the way I'd say this phrase.

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Thank you for your correction and suggestion, Steven. You've helped me alot. 8)

Hi Maryann, I understand what you mean. Thank you for offering me some alternative options, and for sharing your opinion as well. I really appreciate it. In fact(Could I say 'In deed'?), I'm very glad to know how to express an idea in different ways. Please keep on doing it. Thanks :wink:
P.S. I like your colorful messages very much. :)
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Well, Weiqiang, for me the opinion of others is also important, and it's quite interesting to know if there are several ways of saying the same phrase, right?
By the way I think You sound quite good!

As to my colorful posts - there is another meaning as to this Look here

Maryann
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