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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#3 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 17:34 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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I just realized that this forum allows unregistered guests to post. While I can understand this to a point, perhaps the best thing to do is to strongly encourage people to register as they are asking their first question. The process can be seamless, by asking for a few more fields right in the posting sequence if they aren't already signed in. (i.e., Log in if you are registered, or create new account if you aren't.) The incentive would be pretty straight-forward: You will get notification of answers in your inbox! Slava, can we do this?
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#4 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 17:39 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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David, I have tried to encourage this. I did have the thought of adding, " It's Free ", as some folk think " subscribing " means that you have to pay to join.
It really is disturbing the number of guests that we have, and this can surely be curtailed by making subscribing necessary before posting, as we have guests only calling in to ask a question. Presumably they prefer this to browsing on Google.
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#5 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 17:53 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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Well, I can see both sides of the coin, as placing a requirement can deter some people from participating. Of course, this particular step is beneficial to both the site and the participant, (a win/win), so I'm not sure why there's so much hesitation, but I do understand it. Several times, I've (personally) been googling for an answer to a rather esoteric question, will find an appropriate forum, and then just don't feel like signing up for yet another account for a site that's unlikely to ever see me again. I even have a friend or two who watch my personal blog, and they'll post "anonymously", (i.e., without an account), even though they know that they have to keep reloading pages before they'll ever see any responses; they just have privacy concerns, which I respect.
What I was suggesting to Slava was to actually integrate the registration process directly into the posting process for those who aren't registered or signed in when they post. Not very much would really be involved, possibly as little as an email field on the front end.
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#6 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:51 am 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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... Hi Torsten..
Mr. Bill and Mr. David are giving their authentic suggestion for a better environment of english-test.net and I want to contribute mine too...
Like Readers' Digest, you can request the registered users to list some of the email addresses of their friends and your team can send a formal invitation to each of them telling the benefits of their registration by giving some samples of your assets...
In this way you can gain the attention of more people to register in this web project to get their free share..
As the will of guests browsing this site for the first time may not be tender enough to gain the confidence to leave their email addresses at the first instance if asked. So the registered users can recommend their friends to you to invite for registration...
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#7 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:40 am 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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But............I often do the window shopping bit too.
I do that just to see whether there are interesting posts to reply to, and if there are not, I just disappear again without bothering to sign in.
I obviously sign in though when I do my exercises. _________________ No comment |
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Shyone I'm here quite often ;-)

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#8 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:48 am 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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| Shyone wrote: |
| I obviously sign in though when I do my exercises. |
Jumping jacks?
But seriously, why not just stay logged in?
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#9 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:54 am 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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Because, simple, isn't it?
I sign out everywhere, it's just the way I do things, and when I run CCleaner it happens automatically anyway. _________________ No comment |
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Shyone I'm here quite often ;-)

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#10 (permalink) Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:37 am 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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I have submission, how to make that forum have more members. Why just simple don't insert some script, which will forbid customers to see forum and to do test. Registering is really easy, and simple, everyone can register without any obstacles. |
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#11 (permalink) Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:15 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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| DarkEdition wrote: |
| ...forbid customers to see forum and to do test... |
This is an interesting idea, DarkEdition, but the culture of the Internet is that one needs to "give before you get". This site has a ton of free content, and that is precisely what attracts people, via Google and other search engines. People are naturally inclined to not reveal themselves at first, and most wouldn't even approach if they had to register just to see what was here.
Put mathematically, your conversion ratio might possibly be higher, but the initial population would be far lower, and thus, the resulting product would be much smaller. While I don't know the raw numbers, the public stats show that they're gaining around 60 or 70 new forum members per day, so they're already doing something right. The trick is to build on that growth incrementally, and not to disturb the basic working model.
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#12 (permalink) Fri Apr 17, 2009 12:33 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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Indeed, another good idea is to allowed customers to do only part of the test. To be more precious, only beginner part. For more they need to register, and to log in. What you think about it? |
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DarkEdition You can meet me at english-test.net
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#13 (permalink) Fri Apr 17, 2009 13:21 pm 94 online. 3 members - 91 guests. That sucks! |
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| DarkEdition wrote: |
Indeed, another good idea is to allowed customers to do only part of the test. To be more precious, only beginner part. For more they need to register, and to log in. What you think about it? |
Possibly. Also understand that we are discussing two different registrations: the main mailing list, and forum registration. (Are there more?) Ideally, these would be one and the same, but since each list already has tens of thousands of members, it is what it is.
Also remember that there are several goals here, one of which presumably is to maximize income. While only a few percent of the visitors here actually register, that doesn't mean that the remainder of the visitors have no (financial) value. To the contrary, people still click on the ads, and thus, increase revenue. Thus, attracting as many eyeballs as possible, even if they may not be identifiable, is still of great benefit.
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