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Tue Aug 02, 2005 18:27 pm Getting a hold on |
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Hi! I don't know what is wrong in saying 'getting a hold on something.' People want to learn this language and attain a level of proficiency. When to give a helping hand is the basis for this web site why not say 'getting a hold on'?( should the apostrophie be in or out?) |
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 23:05 pm Hold |
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I think you may well have used the wrong phrasal verb. Hold on means hold something in a firm or tight way as on a bus when it turns sharply. If you like you can have a look at the index for ESL LESSONS and you can see what I have written explaining and using phrasal verbs with hold. _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Adverbs |
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Alan Co-founder

Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 7378 Location: UK
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Sat Nov 05, 2005 1:06 am Reading is the best way to learn |
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Maybe the "Guest" meant getting a hold of something? I don't know; depends on what was in his/her mind.
OK! I believe that reading, at least in English, is not the best method for learning the language. I say that because written English and spoken English are just two worlds apart.
In this language, you cannot learn a set of pronunciation rules that will let you read properly. Pronunciation is simply... a mess, hehehe. Please, don't misunderstand me, I do like English.
I feel that the best thing an English learner can do is listen and listen and listen first. When reading, it's way better if the person has the audio of the conversation in order to make his pronunciation as best he/she can.
Hope this helps a bit.
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C?sar I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 15
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:52 am More |
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Hi all,
I'm beginner of learn English Thank you for your advice.. READING READING READING... But I don't understand most anything..
Please support me
Thanks moonman |
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moonman New Member
Joined: 30 Nov 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:58 am Reading, Reading, Reading |
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Moonman, your English is not bad. You can read graded readers for sure. Start with easy levels - where only 2-3 words per page are new for you. The more you read, the more you will understand. Good luck Jeremy _________________ When you're sitting in your car, complaining about the traffic, don't forget - you ARE the traffic. |
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JeremyinFrance New Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Location: South West France
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 17:57 pm Getting a hold on |
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| Anonymous wrote: | Hi! I don't know what is wrong in saying 'getting a hold on something.' People want to learn this language and attain a level of proficiency. When to give a helping hand is the basis for this web site why not say 'getting a hold on'?( should the apostrophie be in or out?) |
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I think what was meant here was just what the expression signifies. So 'getting a hold on English' would be 'to have a good command of English'. |
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Conchita Language Coach

Joined: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 2702 Location: Madrid, Spain
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Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:31 am Reading is surely the best way to learn |
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Hy everybody! my name is Deivis and It's the first time I'm participating on this forum. Well, think that the more we read the faster we learn. Whe just have to choose some subjects that better suits us and make the experience of reading as pleasant as possible. As for myself, I think that, although I read a lot, I can't remenber the words when I'm writing. Futhermore, I've never taken a regular English course, what make my writing very poor, since I haven't learned the rules of grammar and stuff. I wonder if you guys could give some tips on how to get my writing ken. Thanks in advance for all the possible comments.
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Fri Feb 17, 2006 15:57 pm Reading is the best way to learn |
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| JeremyinFrance wrote: | I have been teaching English for 19 years. I have seen many students try to learn grammar, try to learn long lists of vocabulary, but where does it get them? It is like trying to study people by looking at body parts in a mortuary! A student needs to be in touch with real English. The simplest and most enjoyable is to read, read read in English. Start with books that you find easy (Graded readers). The more you read, the more you will understand. Then you can progress to 'real' books. Just choose books you enjoy and read wherever you can - on the train, in bed, sitting on the toilet. I have written 14 readers and I know they work with the people who read them. I have some free stories on my website and you may like to look at my books as well. Happy Reading! Jeremy http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jeremytaylor |
Thank you sir, When I meet new words, I often learn by heart all of them but I forget all of them after a week not using. Thank you so much! I have to read more and more. Ceicil _________________ 'cause mind is a terrible thing to waste. |
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Ceicil New Member
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Posts: 3
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Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:59 am Reading is the best way to learn |
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I also think reading is an excellent way to learn a language, but with English you first need a very good handle on how words are pronounced.
There can be horrible results when someone who hasn't learned to pronounce learns English from years of reading. They can end up with a very fossilized accent based on their own idea of how English words should be pronounced. You may hear them pronounce "write", "wreck" and "wrong" as [vrait], [vrek] and [vronk], and some of their pronunciations can be so bad, in total, that native speakers cannot understand them.
However, if you pay a lot of attention to pronunciation before your heavy reading starts, you can end up with fluent, beautiful English.
As for the problem of having to look up too many words, that's easily taken care of by splitting up the difficulty of your reading. You can do what is called extensive reading by reading a lot of things that are slightly too easy for you. This improves your reading fluency. At other times, you can do intensive reading by slowly reading a few shorter things that are a little too difficult for you. This will improve your reading and spoken English a lot. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 4337 Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:07 am Reading is the best way to learn |
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| carbonarius wrote: | | I've seen many shortened and simplified versions of classic literature, and I even started reading some of them. I must say that I didn't like it. That's why I tried reading children's stories, as the vocabulary was more likely to be understandable for me, and the stories were original. |
A company called Townsend Press now has a large number of simplified English novels, and the parts of them I have read are not so bad. Most of them are versions of English and American novels whose language is so old that now even some native speakers have trouble reading them. So, they're more like translations than like simplifications. They are by authors like Theodore Dreiser, James Fenimore Cooper, etc. I gave one to a foreign friend of mine who hates simplified novels, and she enjoyed it and had no awareness that it was simplified. (And the books cost only a dollar, even though they may be 300 pages long.)
My favorite things to read when I was learning Czech were the translations of the DK Eyewitness series on various scientific and historical subjects. Those really helped me a lot, and because they had so many pictures, I seldom needed a dictionary. |
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Jamie (K) I'm a Communicator ;-)
Joined: 24 Feb 2006 Posts: 4337 Location: Detroit, Michigan, USA
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Thu Mar 30, 2006 17:51 pm Reading and pronunciation |
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Hi Jeremy, everybody has his own path, reading is amazing but reading english without simultaneous studing pronunciation is simply danger , you learn wrong and to relearn it in correct way lasts much more longer. Will last few times longer that make it togeather with the rest of studing. don't mention shame , confusion and depression if you try to use your language outside in life ,a lot work done even fun, =but wrong results.??
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People my use audio books and after listen to a speaker just read it on paper. Otherwise they develop just a piece of cake what i call here language ,means understand written words / picking up sense of text disability to say and understand conversation Reading if I may say so does a miracle with pupil second year of intensiv course. Sometimes it depends on your mother language if it has common way of pronunciation. best regards sexy picture Jan |
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