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Mosteque I'm here quite often ;-)

Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 102 Location: Poland
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 22:52 pm Reading is the best way to learn |
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Hi Jeremy,
I'd like to know if the readers you've written are original or not. I've seen many shortened and simplified versions of classic literature, and I even started reading some of them. I must say that I didn't like it. That's why I tried reading children's stories, as the vocabulary was more likely to be understandable for me, and the stories were original.
I've also read some "Reader's digest"s shortened tales, and I always was very dissapointed.
So, could you please tell me if you write your own stories? Is it hard for you to have to stick to just an amount limit of vocabulary, or to a basic grammar? |
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Carbonarius I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 44 Location: Basque Country, Spain
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Wed Jun 22, 2005 23:09 pm I agree |
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Just like you, I don't like simplified readers. Charles Dickens wrote wonderful literature and it should remain wonderful - not turned into Janet and John. All my work is original - simple stories which, I hope, are a pleasure to read. I normally write a story and then decide with my editors which level it belongs to. I have just done some work for a British publisher where I had to write stories of just 140 words using no more than 40 different words... That was a real challenge! Jeremy _________________ When you're sitting in your car, complaining about the traffic, don't forget - you ARE the traffic. |
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JeremyinFrance New Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Location: South West France
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Wed Jun 29, 2005 13:44 pm 40 words for a story |
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Hello Jeremy! I visited your website and I like the way you have written about your bicycle trips. It's almost like a picture story. And I have a question: Can you tell us the 40 words you used in the story you have written for that British publisher? Maybe we can use those words to to write sentences too? _________________ A smile will open doors  |
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Andreana I'm here quite often ;-)

Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 203 Location: Argentina
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Wed Jun 29, 2005 14:33 pm 40 words |
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Hi Andreana, I am sorry I can't tell you the 40 words - I had to sign a contract of secrecy. I'm glad you liked my 'picture stories'. I had fun on the journeys - and writing about them. Besitos Jeremy _________________ When you're sitting in your car, complaining about the traffic, don't forget - you ARE the traffic. |
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JeremyinFrance New Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Location: South West France
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Andreana I'm here quite often ;-)

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Sat Jul 30, 2005 22:52 pm Reading is the best way to learn |
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| I'm a beginner and you write that reading is very preferable. But there is a lot of new words and I can't take all new words in. So do I have to write it down every time? it takes a long time. And maybe I should only look words up in a dictionary and after some time I will remember it. I don't want to cram some words because it is the worst way to understand words logically. |
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Simon I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Poland
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Sat Jul 30, 2005 23:29 pm Reading texts |
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Hello Simon, many thanks for sharing your experiences with us. How exactly do you define the term 'beginner'? I think your English quite good, you can express your thoughts in English exchange ideas. That's a very important and useful skill. As for your question, what you could try is the following. When you are reading a text that contains new vocabulary you should select those words and phrases you find interesting. First you write each phrase or word down along with the sentence it occurs in. You can use a notebook that you carry with you when you go shopping or for a walk. For example, when you are sitting in the tram you can take out your notebook and read the sentences you wrote down earlier. Take a look at them and try to memorize them. There is no need to write down every single new word at once. First it might appear to you that there are so many new words but the more books you read the more words you will learn and the number of new words will decrease over time. As a matter of fact your vocabulary will grow to a point at which it will be fun to you to find new words. Let me know what you think. Regards Torsten _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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Torsten Site Admin

Joined: 25 Sep 2003 Posts: 7867 Location: EU
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 14:41 pm Reading is the best way to learn |
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Yes, you are absolutely right. For the time being I have been learning English using some English books for adults and students. There is a lot of exercises in but there are lots of cases when some word occurs only once in the whole book. It's very hard to remember that word, even if I write the word down. I think that the best way to learn new words is simply to read a lot, and I will catch some word if it recurs several times in different contexts. I often look the same word up in a dictionary once, twice and even five times to understand it. But I think that the context is very helpful and the most of all the ability of association. For example if a word "clutch" turns out in some technical context and you know what the clutch in a car is for and some time later you read a sentence for example "He (the disabled) clutched the stick for support" you gotcha it completely. Then you remeber it constantly because there are lots of links in your mind refering to the clutch (such as a part of a car engine or a verb to tight, to seize, to grab etc.). If you only write some word down, there is only one way to remeber it - you need to repeat it several times (I don't like it, however I repeat about theree hundred words a day).
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This sentence really encourages me to learning English.
Thanks a lot. Simon |
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 15:12 pm Reading is the best way to learn |
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Simon I'm new here and I like it ;-)
Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 22 Location: Poland
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:02 am Mastering English |
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It is heartening to find so much on getting a hold on the language. But why should you? The present focus is only on communicatve skills. The beauty is, England may not suffer from any economic difficulties as long as this language lasts, since as on date the language happens to be the best seller. Computers and software fall behind. _________________ Teacher, writer and editor.
'The moving hand writes and having writ moves on.'
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Narayanan Krishnaswamy You can meet me at english-test.net
Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 67 Location: Coimbatore, India
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:24 am Language |
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You have made some rather curious comments - at least maybe I haven't got the point. What do you mean exactly when you say: It is heartening to find so much on getting a hold on the language. ? _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Saying It Twice |
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Alan Co-founder

Joined: 27 Sep 2003 Posts: 7572 Location: UK
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:05 am Reading texts in english |
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I think reading books in English is a good way of learning the language. But the problem with English is that you often don't know how to pronounce a word. That makes reading texts with new words in them quite difficult. _________________ Life is for living. |
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Nicole I'm here quite often ;-)
Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 157 Location: Bern, Switzerland
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:15 am Reading and pronunciation |
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But Nicole, you don't need to know the pronunciation in order to be able to understand. I am sure you want to as you are keen to learn English but why not accept that reading is a very enjoyable way to learn lots of English - and you can pick up pronunciation in other ways, listening to music, radio etc. Jeremy _________________ When you're sitting in your car, complaining about the traffic, don't forget - you ARE the traffic. |
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JeremyinFrance New Member

Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 9 Location: South West France
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