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Hi,
Yes, that's right - it means to appear/arrive unexpectedly.
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| #3 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 12:05 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Suppose you are waiting for the thief at the police station, a policeman can say: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn in soon.
Someone applied for a job try but he was in the waiting list ,in order to calm him a friend said: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn down soon. |
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| #4 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 13:50 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Hi Nabilchamlal,
I think we need to get these phrasal verbs explained correctly -
turn up means arrive unexpectedly
turn in usually means go to sleep/go to bed
turn down usually means refuse/reject
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| #5 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 15:13 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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in my first sentence turn the theif in means took him to the police.
in the second one is reject as Alan said.
and the point is the three answers are right Alain. |
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| #6 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 15:20 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Hi Nabilchamlal,
You haven't used 'turn in' with its second meaning in the right way. This is how you spell 'thief'. Why do you tell me what I have written is correct - I know it is correct!
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| #7 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 15:46 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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| You know Alain, you have the intuition to detect spelling mistake even I have written thief correctly in the first sentence. But you need to focus more on the meaning .I’m telling you that your exercise can have three answers and I illustrated this by examples, do you get now? |
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| #8 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 15:51 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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sorry do you get it
I m used to chat |
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| #9 (permalink) Thu May 20, 2010 17:24 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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No, I don't get anything you say. You recommend I pay attention to the meaning in your message. I would if I could find a meaning.
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| #10 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 7:27 am Meaning of "Turn up" |
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| Nabilchamlal wrote: |
Suppose you are waiting for the thief at the police station, a policeman can say: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn in soon.
Someone applied for a job try but he was in the waiting list ,in order to calm him a friend said: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn down soon. |
Nabil, your sentences do not make sense. As they stand, the first one reads, we will have to wait because he will go to bed soon, in which case the police would not find the thief. The second is incorrect.
Here is how they can be corrected:
Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll be turned in soon.
Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll be turned down soon.
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| But you need to focus more on the meaning .I’m telling you that your exercise can have three answers and I illustrated this by examples, do you get now? |
Telling Alan that the exercise can have three answers does not make it true. Illustrating your point with incorrect sentences...well...I should stop here. |
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| #11 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 8:06 am Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Hi Expatcat,
Your examples:
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Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll be turned in soon.
Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll be turned down soon. |
worry me a bit, I'm afraid. In using 'turn in' I think you have to say who is doing the 'turning in' - in other words mention the agent with the passive and I'm not really happy about the use of the future here. It is usually referring to what has happened or what happened as in: Charlie was turned in by his girlfriend and later arrested by the police. Again I think you have to specify in what way someone was turned down as in: I know he will be turned down for the job because he is not qualified enough.
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| #12 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 8:38 am Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Yes, I agree that my examples are not the best English. If I were trying to express those ideas, I would say:
Don't worry, we might have to wait until someone turns him in. OR Don't worry, we might have to wait but surely he will be turned in by someone soon.
I was trying to change Nabil's sentences as little as possible to give them the meanings I assumed he intended. |
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| #13 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 16:47 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Nice try, I cut the sentence because I’m not allowed to add anything to it, and because it’s easy to be understood in a friendly discussion.
But you can say: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn in soon by someone.
And don’t worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn down soon this job.
Alain said: in other words mention the agent with the passive and I'm not really happy about the use of the future here.
Can you Alain give us a list of tense restriction about the passive form? |
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| #14 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 17:55 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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| Nabilchamlal wrote: |
But you can say: Don't worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn in soon by someone.
And don’t worry we'll have to wait a little longer because I'm sure he'll turn down soon this job.
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You can say it, but it doesn't make it correct. |
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| #15 (permalink) Fri May 21, 2010 22:01 pm Meaning of "Turn up" |
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Maybe what Nabil has been trying to say is "He'll turn himself in soon". Nabil, I think you will be better off if you stay away from giving explanations when you don't know what you are talking about. If you want to know something, please ask. If you are not sure about something, don't pretend you are because this will confuse other learners. Many thanks.
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