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#17 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 19:09 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| Infin1ty, there is an old American saying about politics: There are two things you don't want to watch being made -- sausage and the law. |
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Hi Jamie(K)
I hope you know the famous quote about 'Law' as below:
A country is considered the more civilized the more the wisdom and efficiency of its laws hinder a weak man from becoming too weak or a powerful one too powerful."
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#18 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 19:26 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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| Sahid59 wrote: |
| A country is considered the more civilized the more the wisdom and efficiency of its laws hinder a weak man from becoming too weak or a powerful one too powerful." |
That's from a novelist, though, not an expert on economics and government.
The wisest and most efficient laws are not the most restrictive or the most cumbersome on the people. You'll notice that the countries who have had the craziest, bloodiest dictators over the past 100 years have been those with restrictive laws, not the ones with more freedom.
When I ask people from the Middle East why they chose to live in the United States, one common answer is, "In my country the individual is stronger than the law, but in the United States the law is stronger than the individual." They say this even though their countries had laws that were much more restrictive than American law. |
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#19 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 19:55 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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Law has to provide a safer environment to the individual...and help him/her to get real and practical solutions for problems and difficulties in life...
For example the divorce...what measures do our man-made laws provide the individual to refresh his life once he/she feels to get out of the marriage contract...?
Man-made laws are more vulnerable to situations..while the God-made laws ( as Shariaa in Islamic Lands ) are most suitable for mankind to practice...
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#20 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 21:33 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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| Sahid59 wrote: |
| Law has to provide a safer environment to the individual...and help him/her to get real and practical solutions for problems and difficulties in life... |
It's not the job of government to help people find real, practical solutions for their problems in life. As long as the government isn't the one causing the problem, it's the job of the individual and the people around him to find those solutions.
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| For example the divorce...what measures do our man-made laws provide the individual to refresh his life once he/she feels to get out of the marriage contract...? |
Nothing, of course, but my religion doesn't believe in divorce, so it's moot for me.
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| Man-made laws are more vulnerable to situations..while the God-made laws ( as Shariaa in Islamic Lands ) are most suitable for mankind to practice... |
Well, I don't think it's suitable to throw rocks at a woman's head and kill her for a private sin or because she couldn't produce four male witnesses to her rape, or to allow a 40-year-old man to marry a 9-year-old girl, or to cut off a thief's hand, or to cut someone's head off for carrying literature about another religion, or to murder someone for changing his religion, or to treat a woman's legal testimony as half that of a man's, or to give her only half the inheritance her brothers receive, or to make her walk around under a tent and peek out a little eye hole, but I understand the general point you were trying to make. |
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#21 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 22:15 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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Thanks Jamie (K)
I was expecting more comprehensive response from you as you are, I believe, having more knowledge and understanding in world religions....
Even though I am happy that you have a handful of information about Islamic Punishments, I am sorry for not seeing your understandings towards the Divinely Decrees from the Creator of this Universe....
To tell you in a nutshell, they are all for the goodness and well being of mankind....
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#22 (permalink) Fri Mar 20, 2009 22:26 pm Obama's sense of humor |
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| Sahid59 wrote: |
... Even though I am happy that you have a handful of information about Islamic Punishments, I am sorry for not seeing your understandings towards the Divinely Decrees from the Creator of this Universe....
To tell you in a nutshell, they are all for the goodness and well being of mankind.... ... |
And what to do with the ones who believe in a different God or not believe in any god, for that matter? Or the ones who believe but choose not to worship or worship in their own way? _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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#23 (permalink) Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:33 am Obama's sense of humor |
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I personally don't believe in God. What do I believe is: At the time of hardships in our life, it's our confidence and support from our friends and our family that help us out. Nevertheless, I normally don't have a problem with any kind of religions and people who believe in them as long as their purposes are good. Different kinds of religions have different concept of God, but I think most of religions have something in common: Religions teach people how to live, lead them a better way of living. Religions encourage people and also give people strength to face up the circumstances that they don't want to face. That's what I think about religions. Please don't take offence at my words, I'm not saying which religion is better than another or one should believe in God or not. I'm just telling my point of view and practicing my written English.
Your discussion of religions reminds me the war between Saladin and King Richard. I don't know why. _________________ Please feel free to correct me if you find any mistakes in my posts. |
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#24 (permalink) Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:42 am Obama's sense of humor |
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Well, I think people have strayed way too far from the topic. I will stick to the topic though.
President Obama appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno last night. He made a comment which sounded a bit funny to me.
I do think in Washington it's a little bit like American Idol, except everybody is Simon Cowell _________________ Non-native speaker of English
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#25 (permalink) Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:59 am Obama's sense of humor |
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| Daemon99 wrote: |
President Obama appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno last night. He made a comment which sounded a bit funny to me.
I do think in Washington it's a little bit like American Idol, except everybody is Simon Cowell |
I doubt he thought of that one himself. It was more than likely written for him by a speech writer or even a comedy writer. Obama seldom makes a public appearance without a written speech prepared and a teleprompter to read it from. He really doesn't talk well when he has to improvise.
For any interview, so the newspapers claim, Hillary Clinton insisted on seeing the questions beforehand. Very often Bush answered questions off the cuff.
That said, many of the most famous quotations from presidents throughout history were written for them by other writers, and weren't thought up by the presidents themselves. |
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#26 (permalink) Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:39 am Obama's sense of humor |
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Even this one by Kennedy would probably have been written by somebody else?
And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
Churchill might have been original at least. _________________ Non-native speaker of English
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#27 (permalink) Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:03 am Obama's sense of humor |
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| Jamie (K) wrote: |
| I doubt he thought of that one himself. |
No, but I'll betcha he thought of the Special Olympics comment all by himself...:roll:
Now, for real Obama humor:
For B.O's lapel....
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#29 (permalink) Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:13 am Obama's sense of humor |
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Fourscore and seven years ago, Our forefathers brought forth on this continent Strategery.
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Obama was fashioned by the Machine. They knew that his name (Barack Obama. Now that sounds progressive!) and racial mixture would make the college kids fawn -- even though most of them have only read about race relations, most of them are unaware that 1860s Democrats didn't give a damn about ending slavery and were against the war to save the union... that whole thing was a Republican/Lincoln job, yet to listen to kids these days you'd think that Democrats were minorities' saviors...
Bush seemed less prepared ("strategery") because he likely was less prepared. It's no secret that the vast majority of bias in American journalism is tilted toward the Left, so they weren't going to cut him any slack.
If Obama pukes on someone during a state lunch, you can bet that CNN will edit the vomit to make it look like Lucky Charms and the New York Times headline will read, "President Obama Showers Patron With Heavenly Hurl".
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Bush got no breaks, and it's becoming clear that everything obama (where is that birth certificate? Isn't it necessary to be prez?) messes up will be blamed on Bush. Because after all, the president of the USA is blamed for everything that goes wrong in this great land, especially if he's a Republican. _________________ Billie Jean is not my lover. Hee. |
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