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#2 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 16:56 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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It is Alan's turn! ( or I hope Milanya is around :)) _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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Gray I'm here quite often ;-)

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#3 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 18:22 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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| I'd rather write 'for us student.' |
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#4 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 18:38 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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| Gray wrote: |
| It is Alan's turn! ( or I hope Milanya is around :)) |
Milanya is around, but the only person to answer a question
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is the author him/herself. Milanya is by no means a mind reader.
"[F]or us, students" is grammatically correct, "for we students" is grammatically incorrect. Maybe there were some context clues, but since context was NOT provided and Milanya is NOT clairvoyant ...... This is all I have to say. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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#5 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 18:46 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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| "for us students" is correct... |
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Uzma Fazlani I'm new here and I like it ;-)
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#6 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 18:51 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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But, " we students " is the form normally used in England.
Anyway, it sounds a whole heap better than " us students. "
" us student " is so incorrect as to be non-existent.
Milanya, are you sure you are not clairvoyant.? :) :) _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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Kitosdad Language Coach

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#7 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 19:43 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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But, " we students " is the form normally used in England. Anyway, it sounds a whole heap better than " us students. " " us student " is so incorrect as to be non-existent. |
You got me (not I) thoroughly confused. Would you recommend any reading for we? does not sound right to me. Do you really think it is correct?
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| Milanya, are you sure you are not clairvoyant.? :) :) |
I can only read some people. _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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#8 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 20:21 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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I didn't say it was correct grammatically, just that it sounds a whole lot better.
Would you recommend any reading for we? does not sound right to me. Do you really think it is correct?
But you would say, " Could you recommend any reading for us? That is correct isn't it .? _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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Kitosdad Language Coach

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#9 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 20:24 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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Grammar, like the Law, is sometimes an ass.!! Just because it is accepted by the experts, doesn't necessarily follow that it is accepted by the public. _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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Kitosdad Language Coach

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#10 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 20:26 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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Why don't we make it "wee students", and we are back on track? _________________ No comment |
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Shyone I'm here quite often ;-)

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#11 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 20:56 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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If Infin1ty agrees, why not? _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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#12 (permalink) Mon Mar 23, 2009 23:33 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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Hi Gray,
How about: Can you recommend us students what/something to read? Remember that you need 'us' because it is an indirect object and it is also an object after 'for'. Consider also: We students want to read something. In that sentence 'we' is needed because it is the subject.
Alan _________________ English as a Second Language You can read my ESL story Present Simple |
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#13 (permalink) Tue Mar 24, 2009 3:31 am We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students?) |
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Thank you all, for your kind help. I never expected that I could receive so many replies. _________________ Please feel free to correct me if you find any mistakes in my posts. |
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Infin1ty I'm here quite often ;-)

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#14 (permalink) Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:50 am We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students? |
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Thanks Alan. It is quite clear now.
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Moving next, I shouldn't cease to ask questions :)
What idioms we could have to say that 'it is quite clear'? _________________ First lesson - English, not english. I, not i. ~A student of English |
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#15 (permalink) Tue Mar 24, 2009 14:24 pm We vs us (Would you recommend any reading for 'we' students?) |
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"as clear as crystal" or "crystal clear" "as clear/plain as day" _________________ con·text - The part of a text or statement that surrounds a particular word or passage and determines its meaning. |
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Milanya I'm here quite often ;-)
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