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#2 (permalink) Wed Apr 01, 2009 0:14 am Usage of participle / gerund |
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. Which are which, do you think, Hanifasmm? . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#3 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:37 am Usage of participle / gerund |
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1. -Having- finished high school, He got interested in engineering field. (Participle) 2. After -finishing- high school he got interested in engineering field. (Gerund) 3. After -having- finished high school he got interested in engineering field. (Gerund) Am I correct? Thanks, Er.S.M.M.Hasnifa |
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#4 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:22 am Usage of participle / gerund |
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. Yes, you are indeed. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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#5 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:20 am Usage of participle / gerund |
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Mister Micawber, In Oxford Advanced Dictionary Genie, for many verbs, examples are given under titles [V -ing], [VN -ing], [V to inf], [VN to inf], etc. I find all examples under title [V -ing] are gerunds and under [V to inf], all are infinitives. This dictionary has given examples under title [VN -ing], that contains verbal which look like both gerunds and participles. Examples from the Oxford Advanced Dictionary Genie: 1. We would appreciate you letting us know of any problems. (participle) 2. He hates anyone parking in his space. (participle) 3. I didn't like him/his taking all the credit. (participle/gerund) 4. She resented him/his making all the decisions. (participle/gerund) 5. You can’t stop people saying what they think. (participle) 6. She was seen -running- away from the scene of the crime. (gerund) Under title [VN -ing], what does the Oxford want to classify? Is it participle or gerund or something else? Could you please enlighten me? Thanks, Er.S.M.M.Hanifa. |
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#6 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:33 am Usage of participle / gerund |
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. I didn't like him/his taking all the credit.
I don't know what they are up to offhand, Hanifasmm, but this area is very grey. In the words of F.R. Palmer:
"[The alternative with 'his'] is the so-called 'half-gerund'. It is often in principle impossible to distinguish between the two alternatives in speech. We cannot, for instance, differentiate between the two structures in 'I don't like her doing that'. In view of the fact that these two structures are so little different in their usage, it is obviously utterly unprofitable to interpret the one in terms of a possessive + a gerund and the other in terms of a pronoun + a participle."
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#7 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:46 pm Usage of participle / gerund |
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In Oxford Advanced Dictionary Genie, they have given examples under title [VN -ing] as below only. 3a. I didn't like him taking all the credit. 3b. I didn't like his taking all the credit. 4a. She resented him making all the decisions. 4b. She resented his making all the decisions. I only presented as two sentences instead of four. What I want to know that under title [VN -ing], what the Oxford wants to classify. Since [V -ing]represents gerund, what [VN -ing] is representing? Thanks, Er.S.M.M.Hanifa. |
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#8 (permalink) Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:56 pm Usage of participle / gerund |
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. According to them, your list under VN-ing includes both gerunds and participles. I don't know what their system is-- there should be a page of abbreviations in the front of the book. . _________________ Native English teacher at Mister Micawber's |
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