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past perfect or past simple #16 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:47 am   past perfect or past simple
 

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The point that Alan clearly made is that 'that' is consistently stressed and predominantly included only in AfrE. There may also be other Englishes that do so, but AmE and BrE are certainly not among them. Do you read and try to understand other posts, or do you just pontificate?
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past perfect or past simple #17 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:54 am   past perfect or past simple
 

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it is only African English that puts stress on 'that' and tends to include it in a sentence.


I am never bothered Alan and am always friendly and helpful. I just feel sometimes that this wonderful forum and training resource should maintain facts. Fact is the British use "that" and quite often. Moreso on occasion than other native speakers ..

Don't take offence. I don't mean any ... (smile) Just facts!

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past perfect or past simple #18 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:55 am   past perfect or past simple
 

So you are now a specialist on African English MM after Alan's comment ? THAT Alan seems to have CLEARLY MADE?

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past perfect or past simple #19 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:58 am   past perfect or past simple
 

By the way, English is never plural !! ... smile

e.g. other forms/dialects/...etc of English

This should start a revolution !!
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past perfect or past simple #20 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:03 am   past perfect or past simple
 

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Talking of 'facts' - have you never heard the word 'Englishes'? You really should get out more!

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past perfect or past simple #21 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:10 am   past perfect or past simple
 

Of course I have!! (smile) But hey,
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it is only African English that puts stress on 'that' and tends to include it in a sentence.


How did the World Englishes develop? How do the various varieties of English differ?
Is there any one form of English that is 'better' than the others? The geographical spread of English is unique among the languages of the world, throughout history. Countries using English as either a first or a second language are located on all five continents, and the total population of these countries amounts to about 49% of the world's population. Whereas the English-speaking world was formerly perceived as a hierarchy of parent (Britain) and children ('the colonies'), it is now seen rather as a family of varieties. The English of England, the original source of all the World Englishes, is now seen as one of the 'family' of world English varieties, with its own peculiarities and its own distinctive vocabulary. This awareness that English consists of a family of different varieties is not a new phenomenon, but goes back to the early 19th century. Published in 1808, John Jamieson's Etymological Dictionary of the Scottish Language recognized that there was a difference between the Scottish variety of English and the English of England. John Bartlett's Dictionary of Americanisms appeared in 1848, acknowledging that a distinct variety of English had arisen across the Atlantic. And the huge, multivolume Oxford English Dictionary (1884-1928) documented not just British English words, but also words from the varieties of English found in Australasia, the Caribbean, Asia, Africa, and North America. During the 1980s and 1990s the information available on the major regional varieties of English increased dramatically. Five large, specialized dictionaries were published, providing detailed records of regional Englishes:


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past perfect or past simple #22 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:12 am   past perfect or past simple
 

So you see ... Even you jump at non-facts Alan !!!

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past perfect or past simple #23 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:37 pm   past perfect or past simple
 

So, I take it that, that's that. !!!!!!!!!!!
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past perfect or past simple #24 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:48 pm   past perfect or past simple
 

Laughing ... nice one Kitosdad!
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past perfect or past simple #25 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 13:10 pm   past perfect or past simple
 

And we expect non-natives to learn ..... yer' gorra' laff. !!
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