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#17 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:54 am past perfect or past simple |
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I am never bothered Alan and am always friendly and helpful. I just feel sometimes that this wonderful forum and training resource should maintain facts. Fact is the British use "that" and quite often. Moreso on occasion than other native speakers ..
Don't take offence. I don't mean any ... (smile) Just facts!
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#18 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:55 am past perfect or past simple |
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So you are now a specialist on African English MM after Alan's comment ? THAT Alan seems to have CLEARLY MADE?
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#19 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:58 am past perfect or past simple |
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By the way, English is never plural !! ... smile
e.g. other forms/dialects/...etc of English
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#20 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:03 am past perfect or past simple |
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Hi,
Talking of 'facts' - have you never heard the word 'Englishes'? You really should get out more!
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#21 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:10 am past perfect or past simple |
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Of course I have!! (smile) But hey,
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How did the World Englishes develop? How do the various varieties of English differ? Is there any one form of English that is 'better' than the others? The geographical spread of English is unique among the languages of the world, throughout history. Countries using English as either a first or a second language are located on all five continents, and the total population of these countries amounts to about 49% of the world's population. Whereas the English-speaking world was formerly perceived as a hierarchy of parent (Britain) and children ('the colonies'), it is now seen rather as a family of varieties. The English of England, the original source of all the World Englishes, is now seen as one of the 'family' of world English varieties, with its own peculiarities and its own distinctive vocabulary. This awareness that English consists of a family of different varieties is not a new phenomenon, but goes back to the early 19th century. Published in 1808, John Jamieson's Etymological Dictionary of the Scottish Language recognized that there was a difference between the Scottish variety of English and the English of England. John Bartlett's Dictionary of Americanisms appeared in 1848, acknowledging that a distinct variety of English had arisen across the Atlantic. And the huge, multivolume Oxford English Dictionary (1884-1928) documented not just British English words, but also words from the varieties of English found in Australasia, the Caribbean, Asia, Africa, and North America. During the 1980s and 1990s the information available on the major regional varieties of English increased dramatically. Five large, specialized dictionaries were published, providing detailed records of regional Englishes:
Kind regards and respectfully as always ..
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#22 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:12 am past perfect or past simple |
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So you see ... Even you jump at non-facts Alan !!!
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#23 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:37 pm past perfect or past simple |
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So, I take it that, that's that. !!!!!!!!!!! _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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#24 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:48 pm past perfect or past simple |
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| Laughing ... nice one Kitosdad! |
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#25 (permalink) Fri Apr 03, 2009 13:10 pm past perfect or past simple |
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And we expect non-natives to learn ..... yer' gorra' laff. !! _________________ Keep it simple ... Keep it interesting. |
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