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#2 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 16:23 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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Dear Torsten, although not directly stated, I presumed that the approach would have been with your permission.
The payment I was offered was personally declined, but with a request that it would be paid to a charity of David's choice. He agreed to do this.
If this is in any way causing you discomfort, I will retract my permission immediately.
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#3 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 16:29 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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Hi Bill,
Thanks a lot for your quick response. At this point I'm not trying to judge anything -- I was a bit surprised to see the sigs at first but now I think it's quite an interesting concept and I'd like to hear what our forum members have to say on this.
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#4 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 16:38 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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I must add Torsten, that I have been more than a little surprised at the seemingly slow infiltration of other Language School managers appearing on the Forum. The fact that you haven't seen fit to remark on this has kept me schtum.!
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#5 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 16:39 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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As long as the legal income of this ad. goes to some beneficial cause..I don't feel any harm in it..that is to say...from my point of view..!
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#6 (permalink) Tue Apr 14, 2009 18:28 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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Hi Torsten,
if I ever get my 100th post together I will carry the same signature, without the "paid ad" label, but a tiny sentence of my own either before or after it.
Therefore I can hardly have a problem with it. I see it as helping a friend out when I can.
I think you should build on it. Perhaps David can mention your site somewhere too, and then you both can profit from it in some way. _________________ No comment |
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#7 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 0:56 am Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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| i saw videos with ads on Youtube, but other product not another video site. |
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#8 (permalink) Wed Apr 15, 2009 3:00 am Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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Hi, Torsten,
I'd figured that this would catch your attention quickly, and it did. 
As I'm sure you've seen, my own site is still in its infancy, so I'm not even sure how much a subscriber is truly worth, financially. For the few friends that I've approached so far, I've arbitrarily offered the very-rough equivalent of a (US) penny a post, and that obviously assumes that the posts themselves are "real"; I've been pretty selective in who I've approached.
I did check this site's FAQ first as far as guidelines on advertising. Not much is mentioned, so I followed the conventions of most other forums, where reasonable advertising is limited to one's signature line. This usually includes affiliate advertising, which is effectively what I am doing by recruiting friends here.
Once I can start generating a small, steady income from EnglishWithDavid.com, I'll have the money available to reinvest into advertising, as well as having a better idea of the financial value of each new subscriber, (on a statistical basis, of course). Armed with those two things, my plan is to start advertising on English-Test.net directly, using Google's advertising system.
In additional to paid advertising, there might be other opportunities for us to be able to help each other. For example, several of my site improvement suggestions, especially the most recent one, can help build this site's audience significantly, and I would even be willing to roll up my sleeves and help Slava with the software changes. (I did used to be a code monkey in a prior life.) In exchange, we could discuss the idea of adding a voluntary, unchecked co-registration checkbox to your own forms. (i.e., "[_] I also want to join the Club at EnglishWithDavid.com.")
My last business, before it collapsed completely two years ago, grossed US$400k/year, and I'm hoping that I can build this new business up to a reasonable level, as well, (especially given as I'm broke and unemployed at the moment). That will obviously take a significant investment of time and money. I'd love to be able to have the opportunity to be able to direct much of that towards the growth of English-Test.net.
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#9 (permalink) Thu Apr 16, 2009 13:56 pm Paid advertising by EnglishWithDavid? |
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| Shyone wrote: |
if I ever get my 100th post together I will carry the same signature, without the "paid ad" label, but a tiny sentence of my own either before or after it.
Therefore I can hardly have a problem with it. I see it as helping a friend out when I can. |
I entirely agree with you, Andrea. What you said is exactly what I wanted to put into word, and that explains why I use "free private..." as my signatue(without paid ad). David has helped me a lot, and I'd like to help him as far as I can. I used to mention English-test on other forums I often visit.
I met David on this forum about one month ago. I was impressed by this forum message posted by David. And then I noticed there's a link below his post. (I like its colour, red matches black) I clicked on the link and it directed me to David's site. I like those videos on his blog and some of them are helpful.
Unfortunately, youtube was blocked in my area for some reasons, therefore I haven't watched the latest one.  _________________ Today is a gift, that's why we call it the present. |
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