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#2 (permalink) Wed May 27, 2009 7:19 am Hope that helps |
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Good morning Salam. Well, I saw half of the video and stopped it. Maybe, in fairness, I should have taken more time over it, but I found it incredibly boring.
These claims about learning effortlessly are not appealing to me, but some might find them so.
So many magazine claims, " Stop smoking in a week. " " Lose 14ibs. in 14 days." and many, many more are just that ..... claims. The guy doing the video was in no way impressive, and the gestures he performed were hilarious.
Did you learn just how much the course costs?
It is my honest belief that there really is no effortless way to learn any language.
It takes time, study, practice and endurance. Having a recording facility is a great help, as I'm sure many would agree, and I would seriously doubt that the explanations given in Alan's stories can be bettered on any other Forum.
That's my two-pennyworth.
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#3 (permalink) Wed May 27, 2009 7:59 am Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Oh, Bill ..all your words have a plausible ring , and it's always of the first water.
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#4 (permalink) Wed May 27, 2009 16:55 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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I've known A.J.Hoge for quite a while and most of what he says is true. He is an excellent speaker and coach and knows how to speak and work and the camera. The only thing I don't understand is why in this particular video he picked the word 'loathe' to illustrate how to learn new vocabulary. Why not use a more positive word? And how likely is it that anyone loathes ice cream ? _________________ Test Of English for International Communication TOEIC Preparation & TOEIC Vocabulary |
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#5 (permalink) Wed May 27, 2009 17:02 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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So, a person who wants to operate somewhat okay in society has to know approximately 10 000 - 15 000 words. Let's say half of them are more complex. This means I have to memorize 5 000 to 7 500 movements? Nifty.
I wonder whether Mr. Hoge has actually tried this on himself while learning a foreign language.
Not that I'm being negative or anything, I simply fail to see how this would work. But that's just me.
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#6 (permalink) Sun May 31, 2009 19:13 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Hello,
What I do not like about AJ Hoge is the way he speaks. He is quite unbearable! Try and listen to him. There is a certain 'je ne sais quoi' in his voice that bores me to tears.
Learning a language is an ongoing process. So "learn English in 10 days" is just a way of tantalizing people.
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#7 (permalink) Sun May 31, 2009 19:47 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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There are a myriad of problems associated with learning any language. That's not to say that it shouldn't be attempted, but one has to realise that having learned a new language, it's use and it's acceptance of your being able to use it effectively, will be governed by the area that you socialise in your leisure time. By this I mean the people whose circles you eventually socialise in.
In England there is certainly a class structure. If you were to speak perfect grammatical English, especially with good pronunciation and accent to match, and you were to find yourself in certain cities, your perfect grammatical English voice might find you getting some strange looks, and maybe even a punch in the face. The working classes do not suffer the " elite " too well in some places. I don't believe that any country in the entire world has such a social-divide as that found in England. That is probably why it is safer to adopt an American accent.
Foreign students spending their leisure hours in Torquay are a prime example of this fact. Many have been robbed and beaten-up simply because they could speak good English in replying to the thugs who were taunting them.
I have often rescued young foreign boys and girls from the jibes and hostility of local morons. They are unable to accept the fact that they have wasted their educations, and are angry that other youngsters parents are willing to pay for their offspring to come to England to learn something that they themselves were able to obtain for free, but were too stupid to see the benefits of.
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#8 (permalink) Sun May 31, 2009 21:00 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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I don't believe that any country in the entire world has such a social-divide as that found in England.
It's really a bird's eye.
Please, Sir Bill could you give us more lucid explanation about this point .
Quite honestly,It's worth while.
Your devoted,
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#9 (permalink) Sun May 31, 2009 22:13 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Hello,
Watch My Fair Lady. You will get some clues.
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#10 (permalink) Mon Jun 01, 2009 11:45 am Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Well Salam, this social divide certainly exists, and like all things in this world, money is the motivational force behind it.
We have the " old-money rich, " those whose families have had wealth for a great number of years. These people are usually never seen in places where the ordinary people congregate, and live within their own personal realms; Boardroom, Gentlemen's Club,Freemasons, whatever. They are snobs, and presumably well educated.
Then come the " new-money " rich. The footballers and their wives. A circus of inflated wage-packets and ego's. Victoria Beckham being a prime example of " Council-House millionaires and their families." They are snobs, and usually semi-literate.
Then appear the Upper classes, Solicitors, Bank managers, Doctors, Dentists, Accountants. All usually living up to the limits of their income, but so eager to look down on others who are classed as " workers " in their eyes.
Then we have the Middle class citizen, who in the main strives to become upper-class, but is unable to due to their lower incomes.
Then we have the Working classes, either employed or unemployed. These are the backbone of the country. Middle school educated and doing their best to just get through life without too many problems.
Lastly we have the Knuckle-scrapers. Those who have never worked, and indeed never want to. Highly prejudicial of everyone and everything. God help you if you come across this breed, especially if you are speaking perfect English, and if you are recognisably non-English in any respect ............................. RUN.
If my summation doesn't meet with anyone's approval, then please remember that it is only my opinion, but I've seen it at work too many times to doubt it's validity.
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#11 (permalink) Mon Jun 01, 2009 14:33 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Sir Bill , your comments are always prettily , with some hilarious. You're our festive atmosphere. It's not sob stroy !!! Ovation,ovation,ovation...... |
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#12 (permalink) Mon Jun 01, 2009 14:40 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Many thanks for you Happytofita. That's quite something from you. Be involved , stay involved . |
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#13 (permalink) Mon Jun 01, 2009 21:49 pm Hope that helps: Learn English Vocabulary (video) |
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Many thanks for you Happytofita. That's quite something from you. Be involved , stay involved . |
Thank you.
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