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"Are." They all suffer separately, not as a suffering group.
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| #3 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 22:43 pm is or are |
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Thanks, but this is soooo against the rule
50% of men should be "is"
men shouldn't even be looked at because it's part of the prepositon
I learned this in grammar school |
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| #4 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 22:48 pm is or are |
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| Ched133 wrote: |
Thanks, but this is soooo against the rule
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This case follows the rule of collective nouns.
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| In American usage, a collective noun takes a singular verb when it refers to the collection considered as a whole, as in The family was united on this question or The enemy is suing for peace. It takes a plural verb when it refers to the members of the group considered as individuals, as in My family are always fighting among themselves or The enemy were showing up in groups of three or four to turn in their weapons. In British usage, collective nouns are more often treated as plurals: The government have not announced a new policy. The team are playing in the test matches next week. |
http://www.bartleby.com/64/C001/020.html
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| #5 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 22:53 pm is or are |
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Thanks again
so you are saying "men" is a collective noun?
But it's still a part of the preposition
For example
Running around the blocks IS fun
"blocks" is a collective noun
However, i think the key is with the wod 50%
Maybe 50% is like the word "ALL"
All of the people are there
All of the pie is there
I'm still confused. Maybe you can explain to me in a different way |
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| #6 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 22:54 pm is or are |
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If you said on of,you can use is e.g.
One of the men is killed.
50% of the men are suffering from cancer.This sentence is correct.
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| #7 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 22:55 pm is or are |
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I think "PERCENT" is similar to all the other portion words such as "ALL, MOST, SOME, etc"
so the verb depends what comes after next? |
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| #8 (permalink) Wed Jun 03, 2009 23:00 pm is or are |
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>>>50% of the men are suffering from cancer.This sentence is correct.
so the key here is really the word "50%" because you can't say
This group of men are suffering from cancer
instead you have to say
This group of men IS suffering from cancer
collective noun is not really a factor here
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| #9 (permalink) Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:23 am is or are |
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Running around the blocks IS fun
"blocks" is a collective noun |
No, 'blocks" is a plural form of a countable noun "a block," which has nothing to do with the verb "is" in this sentence. Running IS fun, blocks are irrelevant.
This group of men are suffering from cancer. is correct. Each one suffers separately.
This group of men is going hunting. Is also correct. They go all together.
Reread the rule please.
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