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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #1 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:55 am   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

The impeccable reputation of XXXXX as one of the premier California business law firms and its “flexible” rotation system 1. are/is what 2. has/have been decisive in my decision to apply for an articling position with your firm.

I am inclined to choose: 1. are and 2. has

Am I correct?
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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #2 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:48 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

is-has would be my choice. Alan will probably decide.
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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #3 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 17:26 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

Hello Unomyname,

Is this a sentence you've written yourself? Or is it a sentence taken from a test?
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The impeccable reputation of XXXXX as one of the premier California business law firms and its “flexible” rotation system 1. are/is what 2. has/have been decisive in my decision to apply for an articling position with your firm.

It might be helpful to look at a few simplified versions of that sentence. Is it easier for you to choose the verb forms in the following five sentences?

1. Its reputation and its system has/have been decisive in my decision.
2. Both its reputation and its system has/have been decisive in my decision.
3. Its reputation and its system are/is what has/have been decisive in my decision.
4. Its reputation and its system are/is what has/have been deciding factors.
5. Its reputation and its system are/is the factors that has/have been decisive.


Which verb forms would you choose in those five versions of your sentence?

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Personally, I'd say the use of are and have would be appropriate in your sentence. As I see it, the sentence is saying that there are two things that have been deciding factors. I do not see "its reputation and its system" as being a single deciding factor.

Here is a sentence with a similar construction:

- That educational program and the tradition on which it is based are what have brought hundreds of students to The Florence Academy of Art.

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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #4 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 18:01 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

Yes, these are two different factors.
So that is why i agree with "are"
However, why do you think "have" should be used? Doesn't "have/has" refer to "what", rather than the two factors in the main sentence?
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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #5 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 19:07 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

I do understand the way you are viewing things. And yes, the verb "have" refers to "what". However, if you say "are what" in the sentence, then you have established "what" as being a reference to more than one thing. In other words, you have clearly made "what" plural: "what" = "two deciding factors". That's how I see it.

Why not just get rid of the "is/are what" part completely? Then simply decide whether you think it is justifiable to treat the two factors that are mentioned as a single, collective unit. (I doubt that I would.)

You could also eliminate any question of whether to use is/are and has/have by writing your sentence this way, for example:

The impeccable reputation of XXXXX as one of the premier California business law firms, as well as its “flexible” rotation system, is what has been decisive in my decision to apply for an articling position with your firm.


I'd say using "as well as" rather than "and", then setting off the entire phrase with commas, would establish beyond any shadow of a doubt that you should use the singular form of both verbs. I would also eliminate "is what" in that sentence if I had my druthers. While I'm at it, I might as well also mention that there are probably more elegant ways of saying "decisive in my decision".

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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #6 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 20:03 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

thank you very much. this is extremely helpful.
i noticed the decisive decision thing this morning. Clearly, this should be changed :)
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A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision... #7 (permalink) Sat Jun 06, 2009 20:11 pm   A and B [is/are] what [was/were] decisive in my decision...
 

speaking of which - which one would you prefer?

it has been decisive in my determination to apply

or

it has been determinative in my decision to apply

?
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