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Is this phrase correct: "Please to consider this offer seriously"? | I don't know this word
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"me and my friend" or "I and my friend" Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:46 am  "me and my friend" or "I and my friend"
 

Hello, could someone help me with this grammar problem:
Which one is correct:
"Me and my friend are happy" or
"I and my friend are happy" ???

I hope someone will answer soon!
Thanks!
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Ok Wed Aug 03, 2005 22:14 pm  Ok
 

Although, you can hear someone say "me and my pal," it is not the proper way to say it, so the correct way would be: "my friend and I"
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I; me and myself Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:43 am  I; me and myself
 

Though saying 'my friend and I' is the correct expression, today 'my friend and me' or myself' has come to stay. So also 'you and me' or 'myself.'
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"me and my friend" or "I and my friend" Mon Aug 08, 2005 14:55 pm  "me and my friend" or "I and my friend"
 

Phil Collins signs:

Oh think twice, it’s another day for
You and me in paradise
Oh think twice, it’s just another day for you,
You and me in paradise

And Bruce Sprongsteen signs:

Ain’t no angel gonna greet me
It’s just you and I my friend
My clothes don’t fit me no more
I walked a thousand miles
Just to slip the skin

So which of the ways is correct?

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"me and my friend" or "I and my friend" Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:08 am  "me and my friend" or "I and my friend"
 

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You'll notice, Simon, that in the Phil Collins song, you and me are both objects of the preposition for, and are therefore objective case pronouns.

Meanwhile, in the Bruce Sprongsteen [sic] number, you and I are complements of the linking verb with a preparatory it as dummy subject-- hence, nominative case pronouns are called for.

So there is a rationale for the different pronouns in the two songs.

Having said that, the object pronouns do indeed, and more and more acceptably, appear as subject complements, in part because they are in a predicative position. Me and him are happy, however, is nowhere near the realm of acceptable English yet.

Never trust a songwriter's grammar anyway. Remember that his goal is facile rhyme and catchy rhythm, rather than good grammar.
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"me and my friend" or "I and my friend" Tue Aug 09, 2005 13:31 pm  "me and my friend" or "I and my friend"
 

In Spanish you're expected to say 'You and I', instead of 'I and you'. It's like when you give way to another person when you both are entering or leaving a room at the same time. If you say 'I and you', and you are in an informal situation, it's very likely that a person in the group says: 'the donkey at the beginning, so that it doesn't get frightened' The donkey it's you who have put your name at the beginning.
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