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Verbs vs other Verbs #1 (permalink) Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:07 am   Verbs vs other Verbs
 

Hello all, Very Happy
Oh finally I made it, I'm here again after being absent for such a long time because i've been ill so let's start studying again. Laughing
I bought a very interesting new book titled " Common Mistakes in English" and here are some of the plenty mysetriuos things I've found in it and want to share them with you. Of course I need some explanations Embarassed

A:
1-Don't say : He doesn't care for my advise. Say: He pays no attention for my advice.

2-Don't say: No one cared for him durig his illness. Say: No one took care of him during his illness.

3-Don't say: He took no care of him. Say: He took no notice of him.

I would like to know what's wrong with the verb care since I've been scrating my head a thousand times in vain Sad

B:
what's excatly is/are the difference/ differences between these two verbs :
She rented rooms to university students.
She let her house to an american serviceman. Question

That's what I've got till now but I'll be back with more questions Cool Evil or Very Mad
Please respond as soon aspossible and i'm grateful in advance Wink
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Verbs vs other Verbs #2 (permalink) Sat Jun 13, 2009 13:52 pm   Verbs vs other Verbs
 

A:
1. The two sentences don't meant the same thing.

"He doesn't care for my advice," means that he doesn't like my advice. It's a perfectly correct sentence.
"He pays no attention to my advice," means he doesn't listen to or follow my advice. It's also a perfectly correct sentence if you use the preposition "to". If the book uses "pay attention for my advice", then the book is wrong.

2. Both sentences are completely correct, and they both mean the same thing. The expression "to care for someone" also has the meaning of "to like someone", but in the context of discussing illness, it's completely normal and correct to use it instead of "take care of".

3. "He took no care of him," means that he didn't take care of him (for example, when he was sick).
"He took no notice of him," means that he didn't pay attention to him.

This book Common Mistakes in English sounds to me as if it contains a lot of mistakes itself. Be careful!

B: In the sentences you give, there is no difference between the meanings of "rent" and "let".
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Verbs vs other Verbs #3 (permalink) Sat Jun 13, 2009 15:41 pm   Verbs vs other Verbs
 

First of all, Thank you so much for responding Very Happy. Then, I want to say that the book is good one it's published by longman and i trust it Wink but there are many things haven't been clarified as in some cases where it says avoid using this or that without mentioning of the reasons and as a beginner or intermediate learner i find it a mystery or a riddle needs to be solved just in case of the verb care. But don't worry I will heel you advice and be careful and concentrating while reading it.
For rent and let I wanted to know the difference because the book mentions the case where I can't say :"I let the house from Mr.Jones." and i must use rent instead in this sentence so I picked my dictionary searching for both verbs. I thought it could have other differences that's why i asked about them Embarassed. I'm sorry of you would consider it stupid but it's been quite hard for me improving my english .
Now, be patient Shocked because I want to ask about other confusing verbs which are ( bring and fetch) and a few months ago I did the test taht according to them but when i read the book, I felt disappointed and here are what the book says:
"We sue bring for things coming to where we are while fetch means to go somewhere else and come back with something.". I was wondering if you fetch something means to have an intention to go and bring it? is the intention important with using ( fetch)? :roll Or what would the difference be?

I'm waiting for your helpful answers.
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Verbs vs other Verbs #4 (permalink) Sat Jun 13, 2009 17:25 pm   Verbs vs other Verbs
 

Oh, yeah. Now I see the confusion. Here is how they pair up:

"Mrs. Alnajar rented the house to the Chung family."
"The Chung family rented the house from Mrs. Alnajar."

"Mrs. Alnajar let the house to the Chung family."
"The Chung family rented the house from Mrs. Alnajar."

As for bring and fetch, the description is exactly right. Generally, in North America we hear "fetch" in only two situations: 1. In old fairy tales. 2. When we are playing with a dog.

When I go to my friend's house, his dog is happy to see me, so he brings me one of his toys as a little gift. The dog doesn't go somewhere else to get the toy. It is right near him, and he brings it to me.

If we go outside, my friend's dog and I play "fetch". I have a stick (or a ball, or a shoe), and I throw it far away. Then the dog fetches it. That means he runs away and comes back with it.

When I was a child, if my mother was baking, she might tell me, "Go fetch me a box of brown sugar." This meant that I had to run down to the basement and come back up with a box of brown sugar.

Sometimes my father used to bring little things home for me to play with. For example, his workplace no longer needed a little machine that made a sign move, so he brought it home for me to play with and invent something with. He didn't fetch them for me, because he didn't go away to get them and then come back. The things just happened to be at his job one day, so he would bring them home to me.
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