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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'



 
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #1 (permalink) Thu Jun 18, 2009 22:54 pm   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

Please consider the following two passage:
1.Commands purport to give reasons for acting which not only exclude deliberation of their subject, but also function in a way independent of what they are commands to do.
2.In this primary school, English is the main course that they are teachers to offer.

I have never seen such a pattern:sth. they are sth./sb. to do. Is this pattern correct grammatically?What meaning are they intended to convey?
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #2 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:41 am   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

Ksguo wrote:
Is this pattern correct grammatically?

It does not appear to be correct.
Ksguo wrote:
What meaning are they intended to convey?
Who knows? One can only guess.
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #3 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:35 am   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

So it appears that this question is still unresolved.
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #4 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:39 am   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

But it seems to me the pattern does not go against any English grammatical rules as far as I know.
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #5 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 14:26 pm   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

Neither
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what they are commands to do
nor
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that they are teachers to offer
looks like correct English to me.

Ksguo, where did you get this sentences from?
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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #6 (permalink) Fri Jun 19, 2009 16:20 pm   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

Hello Ksguo,

As I see it, there is basically nothing wrong with the grammar in the first sentence. However, additional context would probably make it a bit easier to understand. The sentence seems to be philosophizing about what a command is.
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1.Commands purport to give reasons for acting which not only exclude deliberation of their subject, but also function in a way (that is) independent of what they are commands to do.

All of these patterns are quite normal:
- a command to do something
- a request to do something
- an order to do something

In sentence 1, "what" is basically equivalent to "something" in the phrases above.
In sentence 1, you could replace the word "what" with the words "that which". Doing that might make things easier to understand: The word "that" would be the object of the preposition "of", and the word "which" would introduce a relative clause and would refer to "that" -- i.e. "they are commands to do (that)".
Look at definition 3a here: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/what
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2.In this primary school, English is the main course that they are teachers to offer.
I'd say sentence 2 is simply incorrectly written. Perhaps it is simply a case of "cut and paste" editing gone horribly wrong.

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I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer' #7 (permalink) Sat Jun 20, 2009 0:11 am   I'm puzzled over 'the main course that they are teachers to offer'
 

Hi,Milanya,
I got these sentences from a Web based English learning forum in China.Maybe they contain some typos or "cut and paste" editing errors as Esl Expert suspect.Anyway ,thank you all very much!
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